Removed link HL Dead Man Walking:

Seems the so called, passed on Mydatery is still accessing his MySpace account. I know he still is around here, maybe anonymous or assumed another identity and well just want others to see he is NOT dead. Your not fooling anyone MyDatery, and you should be ashamed of yourself to make your friends grieve your so called passing. And to steal others money and not complete the job. I can understand you may have finanical issues, we all do, but this is NOT the way to wipe the slate clean.

Update: Removed Link

The last time I commented on this topic it was deleted by management. I wouldn't expect this thread to last long LightWolf.

I agree with you, but I'm sure I will be silenced yet again. Censorship rules.

http://dodgeforum.com/forum/members/123448-tdz.html

Last post - 3 days ago.

I was always brought up not to speak ill of the dead, which is why, at the time, I gave my condolences, instead of my cynicism of the matter. But this whole situation does not ring true to me - especially when he is apparently giving advice in forums from beyond the grave.

I know that he had taken payment up front for work - some $2500 if I recall, but in all honesty, he did not strike me as capable of performing the work mentioned. It is therefore little surprise to me that he took the money and ran.

Unfortunately, death does not wipe out debts, as anyone who has had to act as executor to a bereavement will be able to confirm. The first (legal) obligation / duty is to publicise the passing, and advertise for creditors - usually by posting in the bereavements section of the paper - The families solicitor would have advised them of this at the time. The estate is then used to cover any outstanding debts that they may have had. The remainder (after any inheritance taxes) is left to the beneficiaries of the will.

The poster / family member / mate / whoever posted in mydaterys profile, should have come back to ask the question relating to creditors, even if this was done via Boonex. It appears that this has not happened.

My advice to those who gave him money - seek an injunction to contest any will on the grounds of being a trade creditor. and if no will, or bereavement exists on record, then it is likely that the whole thing is simply a charade, and a much more serious matter, which will need to be dealt with accordingly.

/DM

Wow - what a strange thread - that death announcement happened at about the time I was working on other projects and was less involved here, but it struck me as a bit strange - did the guy who wrote it leave his name?  @Lightwolf - why do you think that is his myspace profile?  @DeeEmm - how did you find that Dodge post?

RE:

Three months by my math.


There is no John McGrew in the SSDI ..... well, there is, but he was 88 years old.  You might escape getting listed on legacy.com, but I don't think it's possible to avoid the SSDI.

LMAO - yes - my maths is flawed - you damned stupid Americans got your dates arse about face - LOL

(And there was me thinking that I was on to something.)

@Caltrade - I did a search on his email address - came up with a few other hits too but nothing that had post mortem posts - or so I thought.

@HL - does the SSDI apply to Canadians as well?

/DM

He quit posting at the Dodge forum about the time he supposedly died, but someone logged into his account very recently. Same thing on MySpace.

He also showed as logged in on Yahoo the same day his death was announced and there were other anomalies if I remember correctly.

The last time I checked dead people didn't log in to websites, but there *could* be an innocent explanation I suppose. Still, it doesn't pass the "sniff test" IMHO. I didn't believe it then, and I don't believe it now.

I had never heard of the SSDI - is that a complete index?

What was his PlentyofFish username - does anyone know?  I know he was active in their forums so I could ask over there.

Rob

This topic disturbs me.

Sorry Magnussoft - I am not trying to disturb anyone, but since the question was broached I thought I would just try to see what the facts are - as I mentioned, I wasn't active here when the announcement was made.   I already asked - did the person who left the message leave a name and contact number?  - as I recall, the cause of death somehow seemed inconsistent with the fact that he left some last words and thoughts - but I could be wrong.  Did anyone here go to the funeral - or contact any family members?   Someone said that Boonex knew the family - is that true?   It is no secret that I didn't get along with Mydatery, but I am not going to speak ill of someone who passed - I am just trying to figure out why these rumors are there.

Well Caltrade if you go to the link I left you will see him and his kids. They look just like him. He has more then 1 MySpace account, but other one I have he has not been on since 2009. And Magnussoft, am sorry if this post bothers you. Maybe you should not read it then. But people that have been ripped off by this low life, need to see this and maybe someone can find him and make him pay for ripping people off. I feel this man has brought shame to Unity and we need to help the ones he ripped off as much as we can, just like a family would. He thinks people will just drift away and forget him, but I will not as he was so into thrashing people around here for ripping others off, well I see now he was just clearing the field so he could screw the little people.

@LightWolf - were you one of the people ripped off?  He posted here once that he was a property owner and a land lord, so maybe his family can help you recover that money (if it was you).   Does anyone here know any of his real-life friends?  Also, I am curious - did anyone ever see that "twisted Dolphin" product he was developing - he wrote me about it several times, and also posted about it publicly and alluded to a bunch of other sites he was developing.  As I understand it, he said on his deathbed that he wanted people here to carry on his work - did he leave anyone here information on how to do that?

@Lightwolf (again).  I just went back to that original blog announcement and found that it was not signed - it was written by "a friend" and he explained how he left those last words, and the passwords to his accounts:

John used his Blackberry near the end to talk when he was awake.  He gave those of us close to him passwords to things like Boonex and his servers. That's how I got in to his account.  He was a strong Anabaptist and his family is grieving for the most part privately on this, as it is a very simple and basic type of life that they live.

This seems incredible given the kind of medical condition that was described, but I guess it is possible.   The "friend" also said you could contact him here for any unfinished business - did you try to do that yet?

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No.... but he was not a Canadian citizen.

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Sure you have.  SSDI = 'Social Security Death Index'  To the best of my knowledge, it's as complete as a list can be.  Your death does not go unnoticed by the US Government.  It is highly improbable that someone would NOT appear in this database. 

There's a few missing pieces to the puzzle, but to date, I haven't lost any sleep over it.... too much other stuff to worry about first.

No I NEVER did business with MyDatery, as I have never trusted him. Caltrade I told you some time back that he would soon receive the Karma he is due. Well the time has come and I guess his life did not turn out the way he thought it would. Got to love Karma, oh and until his debts are paid he will suffer from this karma. As for the "Death Bed" crap, well was all crap...please you tell me if you were dying you would spend your last breaths worrying about your business? I would be worried about leaving my kids behind and spend time making sure my affairs are in order so my kids could receive what I leave behind.

The so called friend has never come back after that day, nor left us anyway to contact them.

Well this certainly is strange.  May I ask, is there a single person here on Unity who can verify this death from real world sources - even second hand? Did anyone know him in real life, for example, or know any of his friends or family members?  Were there any obituaries written in his hometown newspaper?  - or even memorials on other online communities?  I'm withholding judgement on this and am just trying to get the facts- if anyone has any information on this please let me know.

I do remember you telling me about Karma Lightwolf, and you make a good point.  I have to say, as much as I love you all, when I am on my deathbed, I probably won't be typing out access codes on my Blackberry so the people here can carry one my work!    Anyway, I would like to get to the bottom of this - please let me know if you know anything concrete.

Rob

Thank you.  I am still checking this out.  I don't plan to spend much time on this either, but there are enough anomalies that it is worth looking into.  Please post here if you have anything that would even remotely prove he has really died - I still haven't seen anything real yet.

I was able to find his PoF profile: http://www.plentyoffish.com/member6655769.htm but I couldn't find any recent posts (he complained about their forums here, which is how I even know he had a PoF account).   This profile says he lives in Edmonton Alberta, not in Canton Ohio - does anyone know where he actually lived?  I thought I remembered that he was on the East Coast - Maryland or something, but I could be wrong.  If he really is a Canadian, that could explain why he isn't in the U.S. death database.  Lightwolf's link is pretty weird though - it clearly shows someone using a Myspace account that has his pictures.

I guess what I am curious about, did he just disappear (or die) online, or did he disappear from some real life situation?  He was the most active poster here, and it seems strange that no one would know him.  I have at least had phone conversations with several people here.

Rob

On a different (but related) note...

Did those who mydatery had unfinished projects with, ever get the work finished off??

I know that Boonex generously offered to step in and pick up the workload as an act of good faith.

/DM

Hi DeeEmm,

I asked this and also wanted to know about his other ventures.

Once I mentioned that he had only a few members on Mydatery.com and he became very upset said that was just a test site, and he had several much larger sites with much better technology - he mentioned this on several posts I believe and said that people were foolish to show their real sites here.  He also had some modified version of D6 that he would use to argue against my wanted to get the multiple select bugs fixed in D7.  A few other people heard about this and called it "twisted Dolphin" but I have never seen it, and I don't know that anyone has.  Also, in one of his posts, he mentioned that he had several developers he had hired under contract, but I don't know who they were.  Here is what his "friend" said - and I am still bothered that this guy didn't sign his name, and it also seems strange that a message like this would be written the day after someone had died, but here is the part about his business affairs:

Over the next couple of months we have to go through all of his business workings and figure out what is what.  None of us are web site people and we need to figure out what he was up to.  Kat has mentioned things to us that she knows of and where they are at.  She admitted she doesn't know what most of it does, but she knows what a lot of it's supposed to do. When I asked for help with it, I was asking for someone who understands all of this stuff to help us figure out what he was up to and hopefully give us a hand in finishing his work.  Please understand, it will be a little time until we can do that as we have to set up things in his will that he wanted.   JTadeo said it best below when he described how John came to Dolphin at first and how he learned.  Everything was a huge passion to John, he poured his heart into learning and trying to make the world a little better.  Yes, he was rough with people, in all parts of his life.  But please know, he was also a very compassionate man.   If John had any open contracts, can you please give us a little time to take care of what we need to and then get in touch with us here privately.  We would like to take care of any business that's unfinished however we can to protect his name.

So he said someone should get in touch with him privately here.  That seems like a strange way to go about it - to continue using a dead guy's profile, but do you know if anyone did this?  If not, someone could certainly do it now.   The friend also said there was a will, and that they would resolve any open contracts and take care of any business that is unfinished to "protect his name".  That was nice of Boonex if they made that offer.  Do you know who had those unfinished projects?

Yeah - lots of trumpet blowing about cloud hosting, and banks of servers, and support crews, and development, and, and... and... etc... Whilst all the time he runs the "latest greatest dating site" with a mere half a dozen members. He also admits to being a complete noob as far as programming is concerned, but yet mere months later he is touting for $1000's of programming work. Not only this, but he makes posts elsewhere about being on the bread line.

As you yanks say...

'Do the math'

/DM

I have some really interesting links, but  I'm not going to post anything publicly.

I'd be interested to see those...

deeemm at deeemm dot com

/DM

Lots of things didn't add up it seems - but my challenge is still in place.  I would like to see a single piece of verifiable evidence that he really passed away.   In fact, I would like to know what people knew about him at all.  Do we even know for certain what city he lived in?  Has anyone seen any of his other sites, or know any of the programmers he worked with?  Who paid him that $2,500?  Did they at least talk to him on the phone?   Do we even know for sure that his name was John McGrew?   Again, please let me know what you know.  I think a reasonable interval has passed and I don't think these questions are inappropriate.

I still have not found any concrete evidence either way - that he really did pass, or that he is still active somewhere we were defrauded, but again I was mostly absent went this first came up and looking at it fresh some things do seem unusual.   I found a Google profile for him (link below) and the Whois record for Mydatery.com -  which seems to have still another address for him.  Anyone want to give this number a call tomorrow and ask?  I would also be curious if the mydatery account here is being accessed.

http://www.google.com/profiles/103229111208819852035?hl=en

Administrative Contact:

MyDatery.com

John McGrew ()

+1.7057689724

Fax:

721 Vinette St

Unit 204

Peterborough, ONTARIO K9H7E9

CA

@HL - saw your post after I have posted mine.  Of course post them publicly - why not?  We are just looking for the truth here, nothing more.

Check your mail here.

Check your mail here too.  Post the links if you want to.... I'm not going to be the one that does.

After viewing those links, you should ask  does Mydatery = John McGrew     I am not convinced that the equation is true.... that's why I didn't want to post those links.

Yeah, sure, if you are giving me permission, here are the links in that email you sent - you can't hurt a dead guy so I don't see what harm can be done.  I already knew about the Myspace pictures - it is hard to find an explanation for why that account is still being used if it is not him.   If anyone knows anything just post it.  These suspicions are there anyway and his "friend" didn't even have the courtesy to leave a name or contact number.  Here is what HL found:

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These links verify that the Myspace account belongs to 'John R. McGrew' of Twinsburg Ohio. The telephone listing includes an address. That address, amazingly, has a Google street view that is the same house as the one in the myspace profile. The picture mydatery used on boonex.com matches one appearing in the Myspace profile. I'm not going to do it, but I'd be curious if anyone answered the phone.


Telephone listing:
http://whitepages.addresses.com/results.php?ReportType=34&qf=John&qfilter[pro]=on&qi=0&qk=10&qn=Mcgrew&qs=OH&MoreInfoResult=1&RecID=4


Google map street view:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1621+Ridgewood+Ct+Twinsburg,+OH+44087&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=29.025693,86.572266&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=1621+Ridgewood+Ct,+Twinsburg,+Summit,+Ohio+44087&ll=41.339169,-81.470809&spn=0.000419,0.001321&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=41.339169,-81.470809&panoid=Iu8yn6UE0OtAfNrypOcosA&cbp=12,325.6,,0,3.54

Myspace pictures:

REDACTED (Children in picture)

Ah, I am sometimes slow with these things.  So you are saying it is possible that someone named "John McGrew" got his identity stolen, and probably his pics, and that guy is still alive and kicking and using his Myspace account, for example, but "Mydatery" is a wholly different person.  Maybe, but that wouldn't explain why he registered his domain with that name.

We need to compare our notes here - what do we know, or think we know, that was real about Mydatery/John McGrew - I mean, I know he had hosting accounts and the like.  For the most active poster here by far, he once deleted several thousand posts, so he will erase things from time to time.  He also has made amazingly few real friends.  Has anyone here ever talked to him on the phone?

Here is part of a message I got from him in late October last year.   Note that he says a few things here  1. That he had Boonex's permission to rebrand a modified D6 into a program he called "Sea Wolf".   Has anyone ever seen it?   and 2.  He says that every week he cuts checks to programmers to develop this product.  Does anyone know who they are?  It would seem natural that they would show up here after he died- at least to offer condolences to others here.

Something about this deal didn't seem right to me, so I stayed away from it, but again, just trying to figure out what we know, and don't know.

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From:  Mydatery 10/31/09

Rob,

On the blog I didn't see the connection, but now I do, thank you for that.

Next up, let's discuss development for a moment here.

I'm the only one that I know of and I'm pretty sure that you know of, that has developed a fully re-branded version of Dolphin with the permission & blessing of Boonex in it. I personally have thousands of hours in the re-development of D6 to turn it into the Sea Wolf program that addresses the concerns of 43,000 potential clients and that is just in the US and is only 1 sector of the market I'm looking at. And no, I'm not even venturing into the commercial sector at this time and it has absolutely nothing to do with Dating, Social Networking or anything like that. Instead, it's concentrated at a very specific sector that's been looking for something and noone has been willing to address until now. We're actually running Beta Tests with 30 Clients at this moment and taking calls daily from other begging for a shot at it, carefully chosing any additionals that we might be willing to permit in on it so far. 

Trust me when I say I have a huge market that is in anticipation of us releasing our first version into a stable product and moving onto SW 2.0 has already been mentioned by them. I know what is sitting in front of me right now and I'm managing the opportunity in a manner that ensures the opportunity does not escape me. How? That has been incredibly simple and tedious:

1. Obtained legal permission for the re-branding of D6 from Boonex after they reviewed our work in depth. We've held the licensing standards in place but upgraded every other part of Dolphin in this process.

2. We filed for Patent protection based upon a unique structure & algorythm (yes, I know the pitfalls other software has encountered when applying for patents in regards to an algorythm, and this does qualify in that it's algorythm, software structure and purpose are unique and original in all aspects) 

3. We are also Copyright pending on our work for this as it also contains a ton of unique content inside of it. 

Now, with 43K initial sales sitting waiting on us, how much of an opportunity do you see there? There is no BS or exageration in my numbers. The amazing part is this is with D6 and not even dependent upon D7 coming out. Am I anxious to get a stable version of D7? Yes, I'm damn anxious to get my hands on it so we can begin learning & redeveloping it to fit the same exact need, that's an additional 43k sales for us. With Poisedon in the near future, we're extremely excited to see and begin working with it also, just based upon it's search functionality. 

However, I'm not willing to sacrifice stability of D7 just to get my hands on it a few days, weeks or even months earlier. Every bug that D7 has when it releases is an additional bug that we have to fix ourselves, which means it's developmental costs to fix bugs that belong to Boonex that I'll be paying for. The reason I am imploring people to be patient is NOT to kiss Boonex's ass as some think, rather it is so we can avoid this cost and begin with a version that is extremely stable and the funds that are invested into it are for our own purposes and not to fix what should of been fixed originally.

As I said before, I understand the position that your in, as you've made promises based upon Boonex promise of a release of D7 and in the end the clients went with Joomla (yes, I saw your post on that) vs. going with you. But that is not Boonex's fault, because Boonex did not promise them a release date. Now, I've offered in the past to work with you to bring a version of D6 to market that you can use that will help you meet your clients needs today and ensure you have their business when 7 comes out in the future. That offer still stands.

As far as which group I'm in: I'm in the Group that is currently developing a model that moves into a sector that is truly unique and I'm extremely passionate about it. While I do my normal job of Financial Marketing Analysis I also run this small company and my days typically run 20 hours 7 days a week. There are few who hold more passion for the Dolphin Applications and their development than I do. I'm not in here trying to pick up the piddly clients and will only take on a build/modificaiton on the rare instance that the individual truly has a unique idea and is willing to cover the costs that we incur if I put a couple guys on it. Every week I cut paychecks to top programmers knowing that it'll be months still before I begin to see any type of income from it, which means it's my personal funds that have been expelled in this project.

I tried that number for Mydatery and it is disconnected. Which would make sense if he was making contact with others through phone for business he surely would change his number to stop them from hounding him.

Interesting.  Really hard to know what is going on here.  I noticed that Myspace page is "down for maintenance" now but that might just be a coincidence.  It clearly showed that someone using his pictures was using his account as recently as a few weeks ago.

I'm still waiting to see if anyone has any verification at all that he really did die - anything at all from a real-would source.   If fact, I would like to know of anyone who talked to him on the phone - there must be some of them if he was doing thousands of dollars worth of business here.  Does anyone know for sure what city he lived in?  His PlentyofFish profile says Edmonton Alberta, his web registration says Peterborough, Ontario, his Myspace page says Twinsburg, Ohio, and his page here says Canton, Ohio, -though I could have sworn is was Maryland or Delaware or some smaller East Coast U.S. State.

It is hard to prove something didn't happen, but so far I haven't seen a scrap of evidence that "John McGrew"  aka "Mydatery" really died, but there are a number of things that don't quite add up about the story we were given.

Anyone who knows anything can prove me wrong here - though I am still not making any conclusions it is obvious something isn't right.  Just post here or drop me a PM if you know anything.

I remember him talking a lot about working in Canada.  Then, I recall him mentioning he took a job in NY state.  I don't recall the city, but he was supposedly working, and residing in NY.

Edit:  A little bit of searching this site reveals his most recent residence to be Yonkers, NY  and working in NYC

The link to Myspace I put up, is online. but this other Myspace  ( edited link )  he has fiddled with cause I can not see last login now. The last time i looked he logged into that site in Oct of 2009. He must be watching these posts..lol Is all good he can run but he can not hide. He has the need to be upfront of everyone and in full control so he wont last in the shadows too long..lol Must be real hard for you Mydatery to read these posts and not be able to voice that nasty opinion of yours anymore. Also don't believe those emails, this guy always say's we, but has never proven it. And if he made so much money doing what he does, why does his house look like a fixer upper?..lmao I do not believe there is a "We" with him. He works alone sucking the life out of good people. Hmmm maybe a "Dolphin Vampire"

@HL - that is even more cities.  I am also fairly certain I heard a small (not NY) East Coast State- Delaware I think.

The one I was going to say the city I believed was the PlentyofFish one for Extremist70 - but now the gender for that says "Woman".  I should have taken a screen shot of that, because I am pretty sure that was male yesterday - though I am not positive - plus I thought the religion was something like "baptist" - not "new age" but again I could be wrong.  Did anyone look at that by any chance?  Sure does seem like there is a ghost around here though.

@Lightwolf - good digging on this.  How did you know about all those Myspace accounts?  I can see that this one is friends with "&theysayImnotpolite".

Did you notice in that letter this comment: "We're actually running Beta Tests with 30 Clients at this moment and taking calls daily from other begging for a shot at it," I wonder where those 30 clients are now?  - don't you think at least one of them would have found their way here?   Something told me to stay as far away from that deal as possible, and that is when the pissing contests started.  He refused to accept my polite "no thank you".   I would still like to see if there are any elements of truth there - he must have been working on something, and someone here must know about it.   He wrote volumes here - he must have left some clue as to who he really was.

Yesterday it said 'protestant', which struct me as odd because the friend who posted to his account here at unity mentioned that he was 'anabaptist'.

/DM

That's simply 100% BS

You do not "decide to hop online & take a 1/2 hour course in HTML" and then miraculously within six months become a programmer and take on projects of the magnitude that he claimed.

He is simply all talk.

If you've read the stuff on his myspace page, he goes on about setting up a used car lot, and helping out friends fix their cars.

If you need a laugh - just read this, whilst thinking 'used car salesman' - http://www.google.com/profiles/103229111208819852035?hl=en

It's just a massive sales pitch, and unfortunately, some are impressed by this kind of talk. There's also countless similar conversations in the forums about 'his' servers, and 'his' group of techs that support them etc etc. You would think that if he really did employ all of these people, the 'friend' would have been talking about a company, rather than a bunch of personal work that needed to be finished.

There is also the matter of the sanctioned branch of Dolphin - something easily verified by My Boonex.

Unfortunately the web supports anonymity, and in some cases this encourages people's alter ego's to become dominant, which is what stikes me has happened here. The initial idea of building a dating site to bolster his popularity/ego is soon replaced with the new found popularity here on the forums. The dating site idea slips to the wayside, and the persona of mydatery is assumed. Then an opportunity presents itself - a cash offer for paid work - he takes it. Perhaps with good intentions - who really knows? But whether by design and opportunity, or by simply being out of his depth, he decides to take the cash and run.

Unfortunately when you live a life that is not real, the consequences also do not seem real. I really hope that if this does turn out to be a hoax, he ends up in jail for it.

/DM

PS - Who would you like to be today??? - http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/

DeeEmm, thanks for confirming that religion change - was it female yesterday do you remember?  - I viewed several profiles I thought might be his so could have just over looked that I suppose.  Strange that it would change though - it didn't seem like an active profile, and "Extremist70" doesn't sound like a name a woman would pick - though I suppose it could be, so that might not be him at all.

Do you know for a fact that he got a wad of cash from someone here?  May I ask who?  Tell me by PM if you wish - I won't post it without their permission- just trying to get all the facts in one place.

I found what you wrote that I pasted below to be insightful - and possibly as close as we will get to the truth.  I could never understand why he would post volumes of material here, and not put some of his energy into getting new members for his site.  Once when he was giving me some shit about my trying to get that multiple select bug fixed by Boonex, I said that if he didn't need it maybe he should just not worry about it, and concentrate on getting more than eight members on his site instead.   He totally freaked, and I found myself being attacked on multiple threads quite vilely over a period of at least two months - apparently I had hit a nerve.  After that, he started alluding to his other sites that were so sophisticated that he would never let anyone here see them.  Only amateurs like me would post the link to their site here.

I still think someone here must know more, but we are starting to get a better picture of what this guy was all about I think.

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Unfortunately the web supports anonymity, and in some cases this encourages people's alter ego's to become dominant, which is what stikes me has happened here. The initial idea of building a dating site to bolster his popularity/ego is soon replaced with the new found popularity here on the forums. The dating site idea slips to the wayside, and the persona of mydatery is assumed. Then an opportunity presents itself - a cash offer for paid work - he takes it. Perhaps with good intentions - who really knows? But whether by design and opportunity, or by simply being out of his depth, he decides to take the cash and run.

LOL - the romance between you and mydatery did not go unnoticed. I too was on the receiving end of one of his outbursts, he definitely had some issues that needed addressing.

The original thread was deleted as it was seen as being distasteful - it was in the original thread that they (DPC) mentioned the price.

http://www.boonex.com/unity/blog/entry/What_to_do_2010_05_11l

IIRC is was in the region of about $2500.

/DM

Hey Andrew Boon - can you confirm that you sanctioned this Dolphin spin-off that he was working on?

/DM

Wow - so he grabbed $2.500 - looks like Dosdawg censored part of that message, so I couldn't get the whole story there, but it does appear Boonex was helping.    I also didn't realize there was another page on that announcement where even more skepticism was expressed.  On that and Andrew's post about it there was one guy who said Mydatery was still sending him messages after he died - those long obsessive compulsive essays he writes - not too many people do that.  Another guy he took for $500 said he popped up in Skype - you can block people in Skype but they still will show when they log in- a flaw in the system.  I also found one girl who said he helped her and said she talked to him on the phone, but even she expressed skepticism  - I dropped all three quick notes and told them they could weigh in here.  It might be considered to be socially a little uncomfortable to discuss this on a death announcement but it shouldn't here - we are just trying to get the facts, either way.

@Andrew - yes, could you let us know if he had authorization for a private labeled D6?  He used that pretty effectively here to argue against your fixing the multiple select problems in the D7 database.  I'm pretty sure he didn't have the staff he said he had, or the 30 customers, but whether or not he had a private labeled agreement with Boonex is a simple factual issue - he either did or didn't, and knowing would give us another piece of the puzzle.

@Lightwolf - you don't feel like calling a neighbor do you - if we can get a number :-)

Just found this by searching for "McGrew" and that unusual spelling he used "noone" but no activity for more than a year.  In Ohio, but the pics don't look like the ones we know. http://www.facebook.com/pages/John-McGrew/6481179141?filter=3

I saw that Google crap when his "death" was first announced. I didn't say anything at the time, but it didn't go unnoticed.

What a load of hooey. There are some definite whoppers on that page. I have to wonder if any of it was true.

Doesn't matter. He's gone & if he isn't really dead.... he may as well be now.

Dolphin is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license, which allows adaptations and remixes of the work, as well as the ability to redistribute said adaptations/remixes. One such example is ModMySite's Dolphin Clean project.

While Andrew Boon may or may not have given any consent for spin-offs of his work, it does not matter, as you are legally able to do so.

1/ I wasn't asking you - please note the italic and bold text, and the use of his full name - just so that there was no confusion.

2/ That does not answer the question that I asked.

So...

0/10 for observation

0/10 for understanding

Anyhows - I thought that this thread disturbed you

/DM

Aren't you a funny guy. Here, let me give you a shiny new nickel for your trouble.

@Magnussoft -  Here is Mydatery's quote from the message he sent me, "I'm the only one that I know of and I'm pretty sure that you know of, that has developed a fully re-branded version of Dolphin with the permission & blessing of Boonex in it." That sounds to me like more than just taking advantage of a license clause. I think you were one of Mydatery's bigger supporters as I recall - do you know anything more about him.  What city he lived in perhaps?  - or any of his business associates?

I still haven't found a single scrap of evidence that he really died, but I have invited more people to weigh in here so maybe they will know something.  I also haven't found anything to indicate he is still alive - that Myspace profile that LightWolf found is still the most suspicious but I haven't found anything else like that.  Since he was obsessive compulsive about writing, I can't imagine him not leaving a paper trail, so it is safe to assume if he is alive, he is no longer using the Mydatery or John McGrew names.

We also still don't know why.  There is nothing on his recent posts that I could see that would indicate he was thinking of something like that.  It may have been the money - but $2,500 - that is not that much to disappear.    In fact, DPC said he was doing a good job when he died, but some of his comments were censored so we don't know the whole story.  I invited him here so maybe he will shed some light on what happened.

It is still a mystery - not a shred of evidence to show he really died (but many anomalies) and not much to show he is still alive.  I have a hard time thinking his identity was totally faked - he would have had to plan that too far in advance, but it could have been - it is still not clear what city he lived in.   Anyway, a little crowd sourcing and maybe we will find out more.  If he really is dead, that should be documented somewhere, and if not he couldn't have disappeared without a trace - I'm sure he left a trail somewhere.

We were involved in numerous projects together, including one where we were trying to overload his server by using the fake profile modifications to prove a point. We were also working on creating legal alternatives to KMD's modifications, but only one such modification was produced, and never released to the public. That said, we didn't discuss such personal topics, and I do not know any more than you do concerning this matter.

I should also add that the Twisted Dolphin tidbit was my doing.

I was the one that paid $2700 for work not all up front the work was to be done in 5 stages stages 1 2 and 3 have been more or less completted I was happy with the work so I paid for the rest. John had more or less rebuilt my site and fixed loads of F#$%k ups done by others how i will not name. Every bit of work done by John was done to my satisfaction and not just to his own. He spent many hours toying and messing with code to fix bugs and the results are great.

This being said I to am a little sus on the matter as this "Greg Sanfer" that was suposed to contact me did as he said and then was never to be heard of again. someone did log into my site on the 29-june-2010 and the other sites like tdz and others he ran have been updated on the admin side of things.

I never spoke to him on the phone but spent hours and hours on skype with John talking but just about anything and I thought I could trust him as he had done loads of work for me already. Now a few months on all I want is to get my site finished If he died or not I don't know...

I wonder if anyone else here at Boonex had unfinished work.

HI DPC - thanks for weighing in here - but this still leaves even more of a mystery.  If you were mostly happy with his work, and he had done most of it, then running off with your money could not have been the motivation.   Who is "Greg Sanfer"?  - were you referred to him by who ever is on Mydatery's profile?   Is the "tdz" site yours?  - you mentioned it was one of "other sites he ran".  I only know of Mydatery.com - are there others?    It is late here and I am crashing.  Will re-read your message tomorrow.

RE:

http://whois.domaintools.com/thetdz.com

Administrative Contact:
TDZs Multi-Media
John McGrew ()
+1.9143641394
Fax: 
9195 Sand Run Circle
Clinton, OH 44216
US

==============================

Another Chance Septic Comapny

That raises more questions, actually.

I dont understand the reason of this post,

he is scum ok we all know now,

i think i know with what name he works now but i am not sure so i dont post it.

If a moderator wants the name to check the ips to confirm i will give it.

No.

what means no ?

Would be interested to see if this is the same person that I think.

/DM

Like I said earlier in post, John is to power hungry to ever stay in background here. I do believe he is here under a new name and always was, and maybe the change of his phone number is to change his IP addy as well. He is just trying to re-issue a new identity on here so he can continue to rip off and manipulate others. As for all those sites he supposedly had..Please I NEVER believed that. He was always taking in the "WE' sense. We have been working, we have just finished..blah blah blah..... He is just like the rest of us small site owners, but he has "BIG FISH" syndrome or and thinks he is smarter then most. "Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive." He will come out of hiding soon with his new name, cause he wont be able to just watch from behind the screen too long, as it's not in his blood. Then we will see the old john in words again. Just watch and absorb.

You watch too many soap operas.

Sorry Mag I never watch those shows. It's called life hon, and well, since you are young, ( younger then my own children), you would not understand and I will not debate this issue with you.

@Mag - I agree with Lightwolf We appreciate your sharing what you do know, but please don't come on here with little quips along with big blocks of quoted text.  If you still want to defend Mydatery after the facts are in, that is of course your right, and if it turns out he really did die and everything is as his friend posted then you will be able to come back here and say "I told you so".

Wow - some great information generated here.  So now we have a new phone number and city.  I have a swamped day so am trying to talk Lightwolf or someone else into calling those numbers.  I mentioned in my note to her that is ok even if you didn't like Mydatery, as you could just call and ask John or Paul McGrew if they even used the handle "Mydatery" - and determine whether a death occurred.   I checked that thetmz.com domain that HL posted and there is nothing there, but I think we are getting close.

I fully understand and am taking this very seriously. I also ask you not play the "young" card, as it doesn't apply to me (it's also fairly annoying). I know for a fact that he does like to be the center of attention, and if he is truly among us, then sooner or later, he will react to these topics and make himself known.

@Mag - I agree with Lightwolf We appreciate your sharing what you do know, but please don't come on here with little quips along with big blocks of quoted text.  If you still want to defend Mydatery after the facts are in, that is of course your right, and if it turns out he really did die and everything is as his friend posted then you will be able to come back here and say "I told you so".

I am not defending anyone, and am as interested in this as the rest of you are. If he has not passed away and only faked his death, then I will of course be furious (more so if he is indeed among us, still). However, the opposite will be true for if he has truly passed away.

I am choosing to remain relatively neutral on this matter, and will not align myself with either side until solid evidence arises. I acknowledge that the information dug-up already has stricken me as very suspicious, and I am indeed wondering as to the truth behind all this. I am not naive.

what means no ?

If you know something that you're not telling us about, I ask you make it known here.

Just so we have the information in one place, here is a note I got from Bizzi - he is the one who was getting messages from a dead man as posted on Andrew's blog, and he was rather direct and blunt in expressing his opinion that this death never happened.   He says it is not worth his time to hunt him down, but there might be some info here that could help knowing out Mydatery and/or John McGrew operates.

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I don't know much about him. I know he uses proxies to access sites. With the pain in the ass he has been for my network he has advanced computer skills. I can't be DDOS'd but he never tried so far as I can tell.
I know that he has two grammer modes... perfect spelling and no spell check at all. I know he can change is his ip on command and can spoof his network cards mac address.

Personally I know he is probably one of the biggest assholes I ever met and definitely has some mental issues... which is probably why he is such an asshole. Which is really shame and a waste of such intelligence and talent.

I hope anything from that helps.lol.

I know nuthing about him as a real world person never cared enouph to put forth the effort to hunt him down. I suppose for the right reason and motivation I could find out. honestly thou, he's just not worth wasting time of any kind on.

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Okay I called the number for Paul McGrew, and talked with this nice gentleman about his brother John McGrew. It seems John owes him lots of money also and he say's he has not seen him in a year. His last known address was the twins addy, And before that it was NY. Now I have asked him to come here and join us in this discussion and maybe we can at least clear up a lot of info. John McGrew is NOT dead, and am sure his own brother would have been notified of his passing. Last known project John was working on a year ago was for a school web design. If anyone has a legal beef with John you may be able to track him down his brother said by his mortgage broker business license   ( I have full name and age). He also had a good friend (brother said) for over 20 years, but i will not post it here, as he said she probably is angry at him also, and have the name of last girlfriend from a year ago. It seems he is burning bridges left and right. One last thing....John uses portable cell phones. I have a lot more info, as I have received a few more phone calls from John's brother Paul, but will not post here. If you send email I can relay more info.

Now a plea to Boonex: PLEASE do not remove this post. Leaving it is showing us proof of good faith in our Unity family here to protect one another. Many have been hurt with this scam, including all the extra work this ex-member has placed on your company as well. So please let us do some detective work here in the forums and maybe we can help others to get back on their feet and move forward with their sites.

Now to John McGrew (aka MyDatery)

We are getting closer everyday to finding you, just to let you know, as I believe you are still here reading these forums. I am not as stupid as you thought I was.

Hey Magnussoft, are you furious yet?..lol Proof that his own flesh and blood say's he has not died enough? I hope so, cause am sick of this man pulling the wool over peoples eyes about his true character.

If you're implying that I've had any wool pulled over my eyes, I'll have you know that I've always been skeptical, but also respectful. That said, thank you for your detective work. I'll be looking forward to what his sibling has to say regarding this matter.

When I posted that business/address, operated by Paul McGrew, I assumed that Paul Mcgrew was likely Jonh Mcgrew's father.  The address actually appears to be a residence.  It's not likely for someone to use an address of a sibling in that manner (registering a domain name), but using a parents address is not uncommon.  So.... who wants to call Mr. McGrew and ask to speak to John?

Edit: strange... when I posted this, Caltrade's was the last post in this thread.  This is getting interesting.

BINGO!!!  Good detective work Lightwolf!  I am now able to express my opinion publicly - the person we knew as "Mydatery" was a fraud, and this death never happened.  In a private message I sent to Andrew Boon, I expressed the opinion that this man was a socio-path, and though for a while I was a pariah here for expressing that even more mildly, I believed it is now more or less proven.   I'm not sure what the next step should be, if any.  I would be more interested in knowing the other online identities he is using I think, so he can't pull this crap on other people.

Boonex - I agree with Lightwolf - please, please, please don't censor this thread.  Had you and Dosdawg not censored earlier comments we could have gotten to the bottom of this more quickly.      For good or bad, this is an important part of the history of this community.  If you don't want this here for some reason, please give us time to move it to another site.   I think we owe thanks to the people who expressed skepticism about this early on  - I don' t have time right now, but I may list them here.

We're way ahead of you.

HL - I don't understand your comment - did you write that before Lightwolf wrote her post, or is their another number you think we should call.

I must agree that the evidence is outstanding, and what many have believed about John (including myself) is to some degree, true. Hopefully we can have his sibling post a response by his own doing, and perhaps enter a little Q&A session with us.

Regarding BoonEx, I have a good feeling that they will censor this topic, as they have done with so many in the past. It's one of the things that causes me to disagree with Andrew: he will censor legitimate topics, but will allow fraudulent and illegal modifications to roam free. I won't dive into the latter, as this is not the place.

@Magnussoft - actually Magnussoft, you were one of the people who seemed to be arguing that this was an inappropriate discussion- even here, and as I recall you frequently ran interference for Mydatery.  When he was working to keep me from getting the multiple select issue resolved, you backed him up, and you also refused to believe that he was spamming me with malware.  Who is the "we" that is way ahead of HoustonLively?

Update - ok, that went up before I saw your follow on comment - I am glad you acknowledge the evidence anyway.  It is important that his supporters also see and acknowledge this.  What this guy did is absolutely brutal and evil - having people who worked with him grieve for him - he is truly a con man and a sociopath.

Yeah.... it doesn't make much sense now, but when I composed it, yours was the last post in the thread, and LW's wasn't there.  I just took to long to write it, because I was doing 2 things at once.

I wasn't claiming that this topic was inappropriate. It's true that I did frequently side with Mydatery (though I did side against him at times), and we were also in constant contact concerning various projects. I admit, that my actions were somewhat biased, and I do believe that as evidence shows, much as to what has been said about him should be considered fairly accurate.

As for the "we," I'm obviously referring to my split personality, as I'm a mentally disturbed person. Odd comments aside, I was referring to all of us (posters), though apologies if this seemed inappropriate to you.

Edit: I've read your updated post. All is well, then.

I wonder why the MyDatery website is registered under his brothers address now.  I'm pretty sure it had a Canadian address attached to it when John McGrew *died*

Boonex has to know about this. Andrew called him a "co-worker" and Mike knew of his (supposed) family so I find it very hard to believe that this isn't common knowledge among the Boonex management.

Whatever, it doesn't matter. As I said (and several others did too)..... it is a crock of sh!t. The story never made any damned sense from the beginning. For someone who is so "smart", he sure didn't put a lot of thought into his disappearance.

I never cared for the guy & now that we know he isn't dead - I can say what I really think without being scolded for it by overly emotional/non thinking *pseudo mourners*.

Let me digress a bit (more)....................

I must admit that I do not understand the whole "do not speak ill of the dead" concept. I didn't like the guy before he *died* & told him so publicly. I shouldn't have been condemned for saying so afterwards, or for questioning the obvious anomalies in the story that was provided us all. Especially not when I was pretty sure his demise was complete bullsmack. HL, Zarcon, and others also received much criticism for their questions and that was way off base.

If a person acts like a jackass before he dies, I don't understand how dying suddenly makes him a saint - or beyond criticism.

If you want people to remember you with positive thoughts after you are gone - ACT ACCORDINGLY WHILE YOU ARE ALIVE!

Simple huh?

If you treat someone like a turd while you are alive, they should be able to say that you did once you are dead. Paybacks are a bitch.

Consider the recent events. What if he (really) died tomorrow and we all found out about it. Why should anyone show him any respect after this?

I see that a couple of my posts under the "MyDatery has passed" thread (which had vanished previously), are back now. *whatever*

I'm glad you're alive MyDatery. I hope you had a really good laugh at other people's expense. It's sooooo ironic that search engines would be what exposed you, "MyDatery" - the KING of chastising people for not using (?)  .......SEARCH ENGINES.

Since you apparently still breath, maybe some of these folks can get their money back from you. I'm sure you haven't heard the last of this.

Serves you right.

PS - Good job LightWolf, HL, and others

I am talking with Johns brother now as we speak. He is having issues with his virus protector trying to get into unity and also he is using 1E and pages are all messed up. Will post more when done.

@Lightwolf - If you are in contact with his brother, could you verify that the pictures he used here are really him - that might be needed later.  I have downloaded one in case the profile disappears.  So now we know that there really is a "John McGrew" and he really is a fraud and a con man.  I can't imaging he is not doing much the same on other forums, and I would guess he is probably operating a site with Boonex software somewhere - most likely with the security stripped off.

@theguypc - Are your comments really being uncensored? - I thought I noticed more skeptical comments then the first time I read it also.  I also thought I remembered a post from Mike that at least implied that he knew the family, but I can't find it now.  Has that been removed?

Yes those are his real picks, and his house was a rental, he owes landlord for back rent before he ran out on it. (The house you googled and are in his profile on MySpace)

The other number that HL posted is a cell phone number and i called it and sounded like, you have reached sandy and johns voice mail. I don't have free long distance so can not afford to call back, but am asking john's brother paul to help he has free calls.

Now that everybody in this thread is aware of it, I think it would be the right thing to do, to remove all links to the Myspace profile.

 This would certainly appear to be the case. At least one of my later comments was missing for quite awhile, but I see it's back now so unless it magically reappeared......... 

The quotes below are from the thread @

http://www.boonex.com/unity/blog/entry/Mydatery_has_passed_

Mike:

59 days ago

 

by  Mike

 

 

It has taken more than a couple of hours to compose myself enough to post here. Whatever John may have attempted in life, he was first and foremost a husband and father, and the realization that three beautiful little girls will never be able to run to daddy's arms again is absolutely soul-shattering. Mother's Day will never ever have the usual meaning for them again. Loving family and friends, helping others are truly the only thing in this life that matters...
Dawg, Code, Tyke - I will help as much as I can.... Mike

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59 days ago

 

by  Andrew Boon

 

 

John was one of the most active members of this community and we will miss him a lot. I secretly praise myself for being able to find words in almost any situation, but now I am lost. This is a great loss for us, and I am sure for his family and friends as well.

John was our virtual friend and co-worker, so please let us know if there's anything we can do to help. BoonEx and Unity is a strong body and we can help.

--------

R.I.P. Mydatery and thank you

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Boonex may well have been duped by all of this too - but these comments *seem* to imply that they knew him pretty well.

....just sayin'

@theguypc - Are your comments really being uncensored? - I thought I noticed more skeptical comments then the first time I read it also.  I also thought I remembered a post from Mike that at least implied that he knew the family, but I can't find it now.  Has that been removed?

This would certainly appear to be the case. At least one of my later comments was missing for quite awhile, but I see it's back now so unless it magically reappeared.........

The quotes below are from the thread @

http://www.boonex.com/unity/blog/entry/Mydatery_has_passed_

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Mike:

59 days ago

by  Mike

It has taken more than a couple of hours to compose myself enough to post here. Whatever John may have attempted in life, he was first and foremost a husband and father, and the realization that three beautiful little girls will never be able to run to daddy's arms again is absolutely soul-shattering. Mother's Day will never ever have the usual meaning for them again. Loving family and friends, helping others are truly the only thing in this life that matters...
Dawg, Code, Tyke - I will help as much as I can.... Mike

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59 days ago

by  Andrew Boon

John was one of the most active members of this community and we will miss him a lot. I secretly praise myself for being able to find words in almost any situation, but now I am lost. This is a great loss for us, and I am sure for his family and friends as well.

John was our virtual friend and co-worker, so please let us know if there's anything we can do to help. BoonEx and Unity is a strong body and we can help.

--------

R.I.P. Mydatery and thank you

---

Boonex may well have been duped by all of this too - but these comments *seem* to imply that they knew him pretty well.

....just sayin'

I doubt they really knew him, and that their posts were more of an act of kindness than true understanding.

I also found out John has a son in Texas, but has never mentioned him on any site...How sad to have a daddy not acknowledge you are his son. So 3 daughters and 1 son, which the so called friend did not mention either in his obit notice here. May John wrote that?..lol Of course he did.

 

 

@theguypc - Are your comments really being uncensored? - I thought I noticed more skeptical comments then the first time I read it also.  I also thought I remembered a post from Mike that at least implied that he knew the family, but I can't find it now.  Has that been removed?

 

This would certainly appear to be the case. At least one of my later comments was missing for quite awhile, but I see it's back now so unless it magically reappeared.........

The quotes below are from the thread @

http://www.boonex.com/unity/blog/entry/Mydatery_has_passed_

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Mike:

59 days ago

by  Mike

It has taken more than a couple of hours to compose myself enough to post here. Whatever John may have attempted in life, he was first and foremost a husband and father, and the realization that three beautiful little girls will never be able to run to daddy's arms again is absolutely soul-shattering. Mother's Day will never ever have the usual meaning for them again. Loving family and friends, helping others are truly the only thing in this life that matters...
Dawg, Code, Tyke - I will help as much as I can.... Mike

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59 days ago

by  Andrew Boon

John was one of the most active members of this community and we will miss him a lot. I secretly praise myself for being able to find words in almost any situation, but now I am lost. This is a great loss for us, and I am sure for his family and friends as well.

John was our virtual friend and co-worker, so please let us know if there's anything we can do to help. BoonEx and Unity is a strong body and we can help.

--------

R.I.P. Mydatery and thank you

---

 

Boonex may well have been duped by all of this too - but these comments *seem* to imply that they knew him pretty well.

....just sayin'

I doubt they really knew him, and that their posts were more of an act of kindness than true understanding.

You may well be right, but CalTrade had asked about this so I figured it was worth posting.

Con men are good at fooling people - that is what they do best.  They are very good at getting people to "accept" their lies, even when they don't make sense.  I have been fooled by cons - I think most people have, and when I have looked back I am always amazed that I accepted some of their lies.  That is why when I saw Lightwolf's post, I though it would be a good opportunity to push to get some of the facts on the table, since most of the emotion of a recent death and the "inappropriateness" of questioning this that the con man John McGrew had counted on was gone.

UPDATE:  Just saw your comment Lightwolf - of course John wrote that - that is want first tipped me off - the long writing style filled with self praise.  Normally death announcements are rather short - not whole essays about how great the guy was - John McGrew is a real sick shit apparently.  (with due respect to his brother - you can't pick your family)

There are so many sites of his

like the tdz " the danger zone "

http://whois.domaintools.com/thetdz.com

start a google on that you will find a trail of his

looking at this whois at time of his death i found ns1.bffdomain.com that showed me

http://whois.domaintools.com/bffdomain.com

so he hosts his how stuff ??

He told me time and time agin he would never start his own site !!!!! seems he had about 6 or 7 and to be bigger than POF was his goal "google tells all. I did research but I thought I do not want to anger or upset who ever " Greg Sanfer " is the writer of the Mydatery has passed blog. as I was promised the work would be finished there has been no attempt to do anything as of today.

these top to sites gave me markysmarket@yahoo.com aslo the last change to the history of bffdomain was 8-7-2010 and this Greg is web illiterate according to is partner and Greg himself.

then there is http://whois.domaintools.com/mydatery.com

registered on his extremist70@yahoo.com

google extremist70 will take you to sites like http://pysih.com and was active as "tdz"

seems bff expired a few days ago we will see if it goes back up.....

one of my all time favorites finds was

http://www.google.com/profiles/103229111208819852035?hl=en

quote:

"Places I've lived

LA; Boston; Cinci; Columbus; Seattle; Adak; Twinsburg; Orlando; Pensacola; And the list keeps growing"
http://www.myblogcontest.com/2009/03/win-a-cancun-puerta-vallarta-mexico-vacation/
was also good for a post by someone who never wanted their own site.....

HL I too would love to see what you have in the way of links.

DPC - great info.  We don't have all the facts now, but we do know he was a total fraud, and faked his death - a really psychopathic thing to do.  What we don't really know yet is why.  Their is nothing in his final posts here that would indicate he was thinking of something like this.  You are in a better position to know than anyone.  Did you get any clues that something like this could happen - even in retrospect?   You said for example, that he was doing a decent job, but you had just paid him in advance for some unfinished work - perhaps he was not capable of that work?  Still not sure where to take this, now that John McGrew is a proven con man, but it is interesting.

I am questioning John's ability to develop, as evident by his constant topics for "find the error," among various others. He would even frequently contact me regarding this or that, even though I told him that I was not knowledgeable in the subject.

However, he did aid me from time to time with learning PHP, and I am thankful to him for that.

@Magnussoft - he was probably a better than average developer - certainly not great, but his real talent was in this "obfuscation" of technical issues - I saw him do that many times.  All of that pales however, when you consider what an incredible scumbag move he did.

@DPC - this one was priceless: http://www.myblogcontest.com/2009/03/win-a-cancun-puerta-vallarta-mexico-vacation/

 Do you actually know for a fact that this wasn't legit CalTrade?

(Not that I think it was, I dont. I'm just wondering.)

the first part of the work he did on my night guide seemed to be a business directory not sure if he did it or stole it but it works then he said he needed to learn more scripting as it was more complicated than he had expected. Too his defence I had paid someone else to do it and I paid them up front to and when I asked to have it installed they said that their server had been hacked and had lost the code..... BUT they did refund every cent that I had paid.

As said many bugs and glitches of Dolphin where fixed by John for me like the ugly online offline bulb.... it is in 3 or 4 places in the code and they all mess with each other but john got it to work as I wanted it to. The couples in Dolphin 6 suck and has many errors this too was fixed.

I had PHPBB installed to replace ORCA by someone else that was more than dragged out and was like having a root canal.... John stepped in and fixed it all and cleaned it up.

I tried to contact him for about 3 to 4 weeks before he "Died" to no avail my partner and I started to wonder... where John was but he was still posting on the blogs here.

Since his passing He has never logged into his skype or not visible and he has not logged into his yahoo... the link that was in the other blog post showing him online shows everyone online even dfghadgfhdfghda;fgh was online when I tested it so is full if crud...I have seen no active posts anywhere but behind the fronts things have moved his servers seem to be down now and some domains have not been renewed.

In his Death blog he was described as Private and very religious well from the skypes I had with him this seemed to me as far from the truth as possible...

My thoughts are he might have financially messed up so tried to wipe is internet history existence clean.. as he was trying to sell his version of Dolphin to the US government according to his stories.

I kept quiet as my first blog about it was deletes as disrespectful the Andrew promised to help finish his work and as I am not rich and need the site finished I thought best not to post my thoughts and findings. Andrew has kept his part of the bargain I just need to sort the information to get the site finished, as lossing my money to John was not my only bad luck.... I had local idiots jump on the roof of my car causing over $3500 damage and my other things so I did not have the money to pay someone else to finish it.

But if someone can prove he is not dead and tell me where he is I,m sure I can afford a plane ticket......

as all I would like is a. My money back b. the site finished

Cheers Patrick

Am working on that as we speak DPC.

OK.. Well I wasn't going to post anything here but something caught my eye. I think I was the first to post about how suspicious this seemed in the blog by the "Close Friend", and now after reading what Mike said:

Mike:

59 days ago

by  Mike

I know you were one of the first Zarcon, with HL not too far behind.  I wrote Andrew a private message not long before this "death" (after I started getting spammed by malware links by John McGrew) where I said I considered him to be a fraud and a sociopath, but he wrote me back saying he thought the malware was unlikely and that someone else must have done it.  Andrew's post about the "great loss" of a "coworker" confirmed my belief that they are pretty detached from what actually happens in this forum, but Mike's I thought was completely over the top.  When I saw Mike's post, I thought they must have known him personally, and put aside my strong doubts about that original announcement - as I mentioned, it happened at a time when I wasn't real active here.  Many people who expressed the strongest skepticism were attacked and censored - DosDawg censored DPCs post I believe, and he got ripped off for several thousand dollars.   Several others had their comments deleted - including theguypc, though he says some have been restored - I hope so.  Know this Boonex, John McGrew, the guy you knew as "Mydatery" - wherever he is, is laughing at you.  Here is how I remember him:

And oh yeah, one last thing.  I will patent the algo's that do what you want them to do just to block your ass from using them even if you do figure them out.  We started that process today specifically in regards to commercial networking (patenting of our algo's for commercial networking) just because your mouth has pissed me off.  Don't ever tell me what I can/can not chime in on.

That one part about me "working in the Valley" took me a while to figure out.  I worked in Silicon Valley as a Program Manager for about a year at the tail end of the dot com era.  I mentioned it in passing on one of my posts, but never considered it a big deal.  He apparently took great offence at my saying that for some reason.  One part of what he says is true though - my site is going no where, so maybe he is some place sucking off my customer base (or not).

As long as I am posting here is another one he sent me.  This one actually made me laugh.  If you know anything about the U.S. legal system you would know why - suing me in a different jurisdiction would have cost him a small fortune, plus he would have to be on planes all the time, and he hadn't the slightest case anyway.  To be honest, I can't even remember what I did to bring this one one, but I remember it gave me a good laugh the morning I got it:

What did you do to the boy?  Run over his dog or something?

I wouldn't be so quick to blame DosDawg for pulling any posts - much less mine.

I have no reason to believe that DosDawg hid them. He has always been very up front and cordial with me so I find it hard to believe he would have censored me without saying anything about it. I like & respect DosDawg. I would prefer that you didn't insinuate such things without proof that he, in fact, did censor posts in that thread.

I *have* had several posts censored by Boonex employees though. I suspect that is what happened with my post earlier, but of course I cannot prove anything. Nor do I really care. The censorship didn't squelch the truth in the long run and that is what really matters.

I bet it is killing Mr. McGrew that he can't really comment on all of this since he is supposed to be pushing up daisies right now. A thread like this is far too tempting for a person of his mentality to not follow religiously. I'm actually a bit surprised that he hasn't posted anything yet. I'm sure he feels justified in what he has done. He always felt justified previously.

I can say that I thought I had seen it all, but this whole episode really shows how low some people will go.

Such is life, or death, or whatever the Hell all of this nonsense is really about. :P

@theguypc - I didn't say Dosdawg censored your post I said it was DPCs - you yourself said some of your comments had been deleted, then later restored.    I wasn't saying anything bad about DosDawg, but he and Boonex sometimes miss the mark on moderation and do the opposite of what you would expect.  As Magnussoft put it, they censor things that should be left alone, and leave things alone that should be censored (I am guessing he is talking about the fake profile mods mostly but it applies to other things as well).

@HL - I honestly can't remember - that might have been the time I reminded him he only had eight members - he was pretty pissed about that.  I do remember I had a meeting that morning, so by the time I read the message his threat that I would be getting a subpoena it was already late morning.  I almost wanted him to do it and thought briefly about sending him my address to make it easier.  He would have spent a fortune suing me and would have been laughed out of court if he ever got there.

@adultnet (if you are still reading this).  I just saw on the post where you said John McGrew ripped you off for $500 that he had taken a job as "translator with the State" - it is probably a lie like everything else, but if you have any information could you send it to me or Lightwolf.

yeah on the day his death was posted I smelt a rotten fish and asked if i should ask his partner "kat" not wife... to give me my money back but i got hammered and the post was taken down now everyone smells the fish but I just wanted my site done so I decided to keep my mouth shut.

I just noticed he logged into my site on the 7-7-2010 or the guy with all his passwords did.

do you all want the IP??

Sure - it is probably masked, but it is your site - who would you be trying to protect by hiding it?  I say go ahead and post it.

If I was you DPC i would change all access passwords to your accounts. I would NOT trust him anymore. Leaving him with access to all the sites he was to work on is plain dumb. I would not put it past him to mess up all the sites of people he was helping. He faked his death, and you still allow him to have access to your accounts? NOT GOOD!

Hmm seems the bold accent and the highlighter accent does not work in this today...odd.

http://duckduckgo.com/?q=pw&v=

Nothing tops a randomly-generated password.

Okay folks, extremist70 aka mydatery is online with his yahoo messenger now i see. Man what balls this guy has. Check out this site http://www.chatdd.com/yahoo-block-checker/ place his yahoo name in extremist70 and when you see the yellow smiley, it means he is on line.

What does that link have to do with my forum post Mag? Please let's keep this about finding the man who stole a lot of peoples money and hurt a lot of his online friends feelings.

I see someone didn't like my piece of good advice.

DPC reported that John was on his account recently, and along with those telling him to change his passwords (you), I posted a link to a random password generator.

Confirmed - what an idiot John McGrew is.  I had checked that several times and it was always off line until today, so I am certain the technology works.  John McGrew - if you are reading this - you are not only a con man and a scum bag, you are also a blithering idiot!  I am still waiting for your subpoena - you can add these comments for the lawsuit you are going to file against me.

You have to have a lot of nerve to still be using the same email account after something like this. But, I can't really speak out against this. That'd be hypocritical of me.

No, he had a lot of nerve to do what he did in the first place, using the same email just shows his stupidity.  Let's let Lightwolf do her work on this - I think she, and the others who have shared real information, are doing this community a great service, and could be preventing others from being conned.

update:  The fact the his extremist70 Yahoo IM is online on a Saturday, but not during the week when I looked, may indicate that he does have a full time job, as Adultnet indicated - I think he said he was going to get a job with local government as a translator.

all admin passwords he had have been changed a while back but i left his user test account on and it has been accessed it has not admin rights or the like.

As for http://www.chatdd.com/yahoo-block-checker/ THESE SITES DO NOT WORK!!!!!! as dsfgsdfgdsfg was online so was iueieieie and tperuot343452390sdfjsdfok was online too. simply every name I try was online even my own when I was not online.

I have seen no real proof he is alive even if some of his things have been changed nor have I seen proof he is dead I know that what his partner and friends promise has not been held.........

so if it was him or the guy he supposedly gave all his passwords to that logged in I don,t know... and the IP logged is from OHIO Akron same as it has always been. same ISP every time too.

I would love too see proof in either way.

WOW!!!

All these sound incredible for merely $2500!

You can't seriously think he did this for just 2500 dollars? Please he had his hands in so many pots that he probably is living it up in some nice hotel room..lmao

As for the yahoo block checker it does work, i even tried it on my account and said i was offline, and i was.

You don't believe his only brother and his sisters would not be aware of his passing? How about his ex with kids? They all say he is alive. I am in phone contact with his family and they say he is a big liar and a thief. He owes family members money and last landlord, and bet he is NOT paying child support for his daughters or his son that is in Texas. Oh well believe what you want. I am doing this only for one reason. To help the members here that lost money with this so called man (and i use this term loosely). If my info can help them find him, then it served a great purpose.

I have a lot of private info if anyone needs this to help trace him also that i wont post here.

You know I deal with Spirits on a daily basis. They come to me in many ways, shapes, and forms. But I have been doing this type of work for over 12 years and NEVER had a Spirit connect with me through im..lol Maybe I am missing something here.

@DPC - Proof that he is still alive?  How about proof that he is dead.  We have proven that the person who post that message - almost certainly John McGrew himself, is a liar.  See the paragraph below - Lightwolf is talking to that brother now.  Posing as a lifelong "friend" he came onto these forums the very next day and wrote a heartbreaking story about how John McGrew, dying with vomit in his lungs, typed out his access codes on his blackberry so that message could be sent.  Conveniently, he is from a family of strong Anababtists and they want things to be completely "private".  There really isn't much more we can do to prove that story is a crock of shit then what Lightwolf has done. If his own family doesn't know he died that is pretty convincing.   I think it is fair to assume that a lifelong friend would tell the family.

I have two YahooIDs - the one that is online right now is correctly being shown as online.  The one that is offline right now is correctly being shown ass offline.  John McGrew's extremist70 is being shown as online.  Here is part of the "friends" statement - note that he says he is talking to the brother, which we now know not to be true:

I pointed out to his brother about the fund that has been started and he was touched by it.  But he also pointed out that John never excepted charity in his life.  He said that he would think John would want that to go into the Dolphin program if people want to create a way to remember him. John used his Blackberry near the end to talk when he was awake.  He gave those of us close to him passwords to things like Boonex and his servers. That's how I got in to his account.  He was a strong Anabaptist and his family is grieving for the most part privately on this, as it is a very simple and basic type of life that they live.

Over the next couple of months we have to go through all of his business workings and figure out what is what.  None of us are web site people and we need to figure out what he was up to.  Kat has mentioned things to us that she knows of and where they are at.  She admitted she doesn't know what most of it does, but she knows what a lot of it's supposed to do.

@Flurmingo - That is what I thought at first also- this is a huge amount of effort for $2,500 though a few other people have come forward with stories of being ripped off by him   I don't think we know the whole story.  Something may have happened about three weeks prior to the death announcement when he stopped communicating with DPC.  Probably, it had nothing to do with this forum, but it may have had something to do with Dolphin - though we can't be sure- there may have been some much bigger scam.   Someone was looking for him who knew he was here and he wanted to disappear entirely and probably expected that story to be believed.

"I pointed out to his brother about the fund that has been started and he was touched by it. "

I talked to his brother while he was reading it. (I sent copy to his email as his pc wont let him access a lot of the info on the pages and or the pages themselves) Security issues..

Paul said there is no such fund and NO ONE contacted his family about such a thing.

Maybe John thought we all would believe him and would send monies to a fund he was going to create. One last dig into peoples pockets and hearts here.

He did all payments per paypal maybe we can go down that avenue to have the paypal blocked... records of fraudulent behavior could be proven I am not a US citizen making it hard to take some sort of action. All payments where made to his partner Kat email. starion90@hotmail.com

@DPC  - That is a great idea.  You absolutely should open a fraud complaint as soon as you can - there is a time limit, but this is an extreme case.

That email is not Kat by the way - there probably is no Kat - it is him.  I just looked it up on Spokeo.com (good site for your new private detective business Lightwolf) and it links to several of John McGrew's social networks.  Not sure if this link will work, but if not enter that email in Spokeo

http://www.spokeo.com/email/search?e=starion90%40hotmail.com

If you search myspace.com for that email address, guess what comes up....

do I get three guesses?

Hint: They say that he's not polite.

my god, you guys are obsessed with this, let's move ON!

I went out, had a good time and come home and you are still obsessed with this

does it bring up the same person as markysmarket@yahoo.com? and I bet Joey in his friends is him too....

To be honest, I stopped caring after my first sip of coffee.

newton did you lose $2700 US if you did I bet you would like it back

But you're not going to get it back.

when? yesterday? lol this shit has been going all f*ing day

this is the most entertainment I've had all night, and everyone else was drunk...where I was.

the chance is higher if he is alive.....

No. but who would give someone that much money for something like Dolphin..buyer beware is my rule, especially with this site..

John had already done a few grand of work all to my satisfaction unlike others on here that had done work.... to his credit he did do 3 out of five jobs in the last big mod and it was more or less to build a site in a site so not just two lines of code... this being said it never got completed so is useless more or less. so was not like I just handed over all the money at once.

The fact is, you were, in the end, conned, and there is nothing you can do about it that will help, except for realizing this, and moving on. BoonEx offered to freely complete any projects of John's; did you take up on their offer?

I understand that what John has done is horrendous, and beyond words to properly describe. For some unknown reason, he has faked his eternal demise, and vanished from the lives of the people he knew. I also feel betrayed by him, as should anyone who was able to call him a close acquaintance, and was able to work closely with him on projects, as well as share memories and laughters. I feel that the desire to seek justice and hound him down with a pack of dogs is completely justified, and can understand the motivation behind finding him.

However, nothing will come from it, I am sure of that. And even if he is found, and you have the ability to have some form of contact with him, nothing will come of it. He will either ignore you, insult you, laugh at you, or just leave and move. If you really wish to accomplish anything from the ashes of those he has left behind, you will make the word known that dealings with this man is wrong, and should be avoided at all costs. This has already been done multiple times, in this topic alone. Furthermore, you should file a complaint with Paypal and ensure action is taken upon his account. And finally, knowledge should be shared about how to properly go about doing business with people on the Internet, so as you do not get conned, such as what occurred here.

Personally, I have nothing against John; he did not wrong me. I acknowledge that I cannot speak for anyone here, and that my presence in this topic is essentially worthless. I am withdrawing from this topic as of now, and will not reply any further to anyone. If you all wish to continue your game of Sherlock Holmes, do so, and I wish you the best of luck, and hope you accomplish something from it. I mean this with the most sincerity as possible by someone like me.

I agree, I'm out too!

You have a story that results in Boonex offering to complete someone's unfinished work at no charge.... and people creating memorial threads.... writing poetry about the guy..... starting a fund raiser thread ....    Yawwwwwwwnnnnn   Yeah... let's just forget it ever happened.

Forget what? Did something happen?

Nobody posted monkey porn in this thread so I assumed nothing really important was going on  :P

IF A MOD wants to check the profile that i believe he is using now is his or not,

please pm, and i lost money from this SCUM

@Newton27 I went out and had a good time too - do you think people are working on this full time or something?  You haven't contributed anything so I don't see why it is so important to argue that we shouldn't be discussing this.  I just ignore threads that don't interest me - I suggest you do the same.

@Magnussoft - Thanks - I agree that you have probably contributed what you can - just ignore this.

@HL - people can't always detect sarcasm on the Internet.   Good point about Boonex getting ripped off by him also though.

@Adultnet - I have already written you that I would like that profile - or just post it here - why not?   I think you should also contact Paypal if that is how he ripped you off, and be sure to give them the link to this thread.

Update - I didn't realize you meant here on Boonex - please send that to me or Lightwolf also.

RE:

True.... but those that can't detect sarcasm, can't detect much of anything else... so I don't worry about it.

Just go pay $15 ~ $30 for a background check. You won't be disappointed.

@Caltrade there is a Kat but her first name is Kathy and she was Johns latest girlfriend for a year. But I hear she is mad at him also and has not heard from him.  As for others who don't like this thread. I have something to say.

I did NOT make this thread to entertain you and everyone else. If you have no investment in John McGrew, I suggest you move on. This thread is for ALL the people that fraud ripped off in this community, including the crap he has left for Boonex to help clean up as well. The longer they are cleaning up his messes with members here that paid him, the longer the software we all want to work 95% right, will take to finish.

Yeah, I didn't mean she didn't exist, just that the hotmail address was his, and that is linked to his Paypal account.  Someone really should notify their fraud department so he doesn't do this to anyone else.

um Caltrade, don't suggest anything to me...this is a open forum.

I don't contribute gossip and rumors that has NOTHING to do with Dolphin technically, your rants and raves do go ignored by me.

I said I was out of this but I had to respond to you.

I come here to learn, albeit it's hard to with this bs on here. This is in the wrong place to slander dog someone, Ms Wolf. I think you should have posted this in the Disputes section, one thread I do ignore...

As far as helping I usually PM, just to keep this crap from happening..

For those that lost money, take it up with your CC company or Paypal as suggested here, why slander someone so, and yes I disliked the guy as much if not more than you..

If a memorial fund was setup and the money benefited Jon in any way that is a felony fraud.  If you donated to such a fund you should forward this information to the FBI, IRS (funds have to have special tax treatment) and your state's attorney generals office.  It is one thing to say you are dead online, but monetarily benefiting from defrauding others will land you in big boys jail.

Good point Maurice- but I don't think he collected any of that fund - there was probably some bigger scam somewhere else.

@newton - Why is this so important to you?  I thought you said you were going to drop out o f this thread.    It is really very easy to ignore topics you don't like.  Lightwolf has really done this community a great service by raising this issue.  It may take a few more weeks to get to the bottom of this, so I truly hope Boonex will leave this thread undisturbed- if they  don't - others will almost certainly get ripped off by this con man.

I am NOT slandering anyone. Slander is saying things that are not true. This guy lied about his passing and hurt a lot of people in the processes. His family backs up the fact that he lied also, so where is the slander? Tell me if you were ripped off from someone, and there was some info that could help you try to get your hard earned money back. Wouldn't you want someone with the info to post it so you can at least try to get some of your money back? I would personally send each person a email with the info, but I do not know who all he worked with. With this blog they can read it, decided what their options are and then move forward.

I have a lot of info that i have not posted and will not post because I don't feel it is right for all to see. But am willing to give info to those who have a legal gripe with this so called man.

Your comment above- And "I come here to learn, albeit it's hard to with this bs on here. This is in the wrong place to slander someone, Ms Wolf. I think you should have posted this in the Disputes section, one thread I do ignore...

This is not a dispute. This is to help get info to those whom MyDatery has ripped off. Why would you read this anyways if you are here to learn about your software? Move on and let us continue helping the members here that have been ripped off.

I also would like to thank Boonex for NOT deleting this post. And hope we can soon put all this to bed and never have to deal with this issue again.

But until then MYDATERY I am hunting you down and WILL find you sooner or later. You are not the type of guy that can keep your opinions to yourself and we all know you are on here using another name and we will find it as well.

BECAUSE IT'S FUNNY..

I usually PAY for work AFTER the job is COMPLETED to my satisfaction.

When I get my car fixed, I pay AFTER it the work is done..I guess it's different here as I have never given monies except for a couple mods.

I repair a computer, customer is happy they pay me...

Whatever floats your boat...geez...

I have gotten my a** crawled here before for posting things in the wrong place, that is why I am doing this....

This is taken from the Disputes Rules...

Important! Think twice before opening thread or post in this section.

Please post here if you are sure about certain things:

- the dispute can be opened only by the involved parties directly. It will not be accepted that a dispute has been posted by somebody on behalf of somebody, etc;

- you have a claim/dispute against a current Unity member fraud, theft, etc;

- you have real facts and evidence (not just statements) to prove the case publicly. Some of this info may be considered as sensitive by other parties. If you are unsure, we recommend that you contact BoonEx Administration privately;

- you'll make a good gesture if you have notified your opponent about dispute opening; (optional)

- Be polite in your claims, avoid constant name calling and flame wars. General Unity rules are applied here too.

P.S. Necessary items will be added to the above rules list accordingly.

Caltrade,

before you use my name, please have your facts straight. I never censored any message as you call it. So if something has been removed from a forum post, it was done by the author of the post.

Censor that!!!!

Regards,

DosDawg

What's funny about theft?

We were broken into last year, they took pretty much everything of value, including computers, software, sentimental items, the lot. There was one thing that it wasn't - and that is funny.

If you think people stealing is funny, then you are an effin idiot. I seriously hope someone rips your stuff off - lets see how funny it is then.

I agree, the rest of the world works on credit, but not here, this is not always possible.

Because of the way that Boonex refuse to police what is sold here, and how it is sold, there is little trust here. Generally developers do not trust clients enough to do weeks of work without some measure of good faith - ie an up front deposit / payment in full.

The main flaw with comparing developing someones website, and any other goods and services, is that you can normally keep the goods until payent is received - i.e. the garage will not give you your car back until you've paid them for the work.

With website development, generally the client already has the work prior to payment, there is nothing to stop them from not paying you.

/DM

BTW. It is not 'slander' - which is spoken word - But Libel - a permanent record of defamation. (written / recorded word)

/DM

Rob,

how did you let this come out of your head, how are you going to blatantly accuse me of anything such as this? Tell me exactly what you consider how i censored anything? You need to stay on your meds fellow, because everytime you come on this site, you are either begging for something free, or accusing others of censoring something. Get a clue Rob, grow a brain, lay off the wacky weeds, and take your psyco-meds.

Rob, quick lock all the doors, they are going to censor your curtain rods. quick rob, hurry, oh crap too late rob, you have had your curtain rods censored.

Regards,

DosDawg

Rob,

here is your quoted post " DosDawg censored DPCs post I believe", now explain to me how that is not saying that i censored his post. do you even know what you write on here from day to day?

Rob, lose my name when you want to reference censorship of anything. I have never removed the first post, that I was not asked to do so. Refrain from the accusations unless you have proof Rob, this is to be considered your warning. If you use my name again, in reference to censoring any post there will be consequences sir.

If believe you need to pursue your accusations further, the ramifications will not be pleasant.

Regards,

DosDawg

Mnnn, steady on there.

IIRC someone did censor/ delete / hide the initial post from DPC as at the time it was considered 'distasteful', as I recall this was you - and you gave the reason at the time.

He only said he believed this to be true, and not in any derogatory manner.

Unlike you...

Get a clue Rob, grow a brain, lay off the wacky weeds, and take your psyco-meds.

Mnnn - not really the kind of response I would expect from a moderator.

/DM

Theft is not funny! I have had my share of it...

This whole thread post is! I guess I should shut up now since moderators are involved and spewing ;I forget about the cliche here...

I regret ever reading this post.

Dee,

yeah well i am fed up with this guy with his accusations, and there is no way for me to censor one single post on here. If the poster requests and that has been done in the past, then yes, i have hidden some posts, but not from a viewpoint of 'censoring' a thing.

as you will notice the post i have submitted does not reference 'moderator' that is a post from me, as my name is used with accusatory inflammable dialect. and yes, i think he should get a clue, and make sure he stays on his meds.

Regards,

DosDawg

RE"

I fail to see what a stereotypical expression has to do with any of this.

Again, this is not a dispute. I am not disputing a product or if he has passed on or not.  he has not passed on so there is no dispute. But this does deal with Dolphin products as he took peoples money for this and did not finish it, so this is why I posted it in Dolphin General. Now if they had a "Fake Deaths" section I would have posted this in there. Or if MyDatery wants to show he does have a spine, he can log in and dispute this with me in the dispute section. I hear Spirits can use im now..

Now being I started this forum post, please stop using it to attack real Unity members. Take that dispute to your own posts please. If you all keep this up this post will get banned and there will be no help for the people whom this post was made to help.

Dawg, I know that you're well versed with nettiquette, and according to the rules of engagement, moderators should be impartial and act with refrain.  It may be a different story if the forum is your own - but in this case you are supposed to be representing Boonex. If you cannot do this, then I do not believe you should be a moderator here.

Truthfully - How is anyone supposed to know what hat you are wearing at any given time??

/DM

DeeEmm,

i have been impartial, but when you are talking about accusations, that is as impartial as I will be. Now to address your other statement. You dont think i should be a moderator, tsk tsk for you. You get your crew together, what is there a total of three of you, go post a blog, asking to have me removed as moderator, if you can get an ample amount of votes, then i am sure Andrew will explore your suggestion. Until then,

in this case i am representing myself, and if you dont like that, then too bad for you.

LOL - not sure what 'crew' you are referring to, my opinons are my own. Besides, why be so defensive? I haven't threatened to try and depose your moderator status, I've simply voiced an opinion.

You claim - 'accusatory inflammable dialect'

I see - someone else voicing an opinion - which ironically, appears to correctly state what happened - that you hid the posts due to their sensitive nature. It is just a single statement within a paragraph about the general state of affairs surrounding the topic of mydatery - the context of which has nothing to do with you, and is not accusing you of anything.

To me it seems that you overreacting, and clearly your responses are more personal than they should be, especially given that you are a moderator.

This is true for both this thread and the other thread about the free RMS hosting.

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Dawg... I guess you better just buy yourself a black hat.   Also, I have a Texas Ranger - Frontier Battalion badge I could let you borrow.

Yeah, and ?

your crew, defined as ---- you got it, no need to elaborate, and i will always state what i feel, im here to make no friends, nor enemies, but there are some on here who have rudimentary ulterior motives behind each and every post that is written. if you dont like what i write, dont read it, simply put.

you will now be applied to the ignored list, the majority of your crew is on that list anyhow. enjoy your duldrums.

HL,

thanks for the TR battalion medal, might grab that next time i am in H-town

black hat, never had one, i was privvy to the greys and browns for winter-wear.

Regards,

DosDawg

DosDawg - I've received your PM's - and you are way off of the mark.

I did not ignore your initial message to me, I read it. It warranted no reply. I have no wish to hear your diatribe about the conflict between you and modmysite. What exactly were you expecting to get from me? Some kind of pat on the back? peer recognition?

Now you're sending me threats via PM as well? FFS. You really need to get over yourself.

This is is simply a forum, and I am expressing my opinion - to which I am entitled. I am not flaming you, nor am I threatening you, nor am I in league with the likes of Caltrade, Newton, or anybody else here for that matter.

As I have said elsewhere in this forum - So much for the spirit of 'Community and Unity'

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DosDawg - I am out of town with limited access to the internet but I see you have written 5 or 6 messages about me, and I don't have time to repond to them all.   As I understand it, you deleted DPC's report that he had been riped off and suspected this death was faked because it was "inappropriate".  If I am wrong I'm sorry- I don't think you are a bad, guy, I just don't think you are a good moderator.  uyou show up ever few months and want to assert yourself, but you often pick the wrong targets.   I rarely use the bug forum, because you don't like what I put there, so my list of 20 or so bugs never got in there.   In any event, my point was that you and Boonex inadvertently helped this fraud by deleting or discouraging the people who saw the truth.d

As I understand it, you tried to start a memorial fund to help John McGrew- it seems like your wrath should be directed at him, not me.  Right now you are again doing exactly what he wants, and I can guarantee you he is laughing at us.   I wouldn't be surprised if he had 5 or 6 different fake accounts here- matching some of the emails would be a better use of your moderation authority - or telling us what you know about him to prevent this kind of fraud.

I think this thread should be about John McGrew - to help those he has defrauded find him, and to prevent others from being defrauded.  If you and Newton what to have a discussion about me, maybe you could do it on a new thread.

Respectfully

Rob

@DeeEmm - thank you for understanding.  I think there are people here who what to have happen, exactly what is happening.  Let's not play into their hands, so I hope this can get back on topic.

No problems - I just say it as I see it.

I won't post off topic in here again - this is a great thread - if it stops even just one person getting ripped off then it is worthwhile.

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I can see asking you all to take your arguments else wheres when it does not concern this post did not help at all. DosDawg as a moderator do you not respect the request of the member who started this post. Now can we please STOP bashing each other and keep this about helping others find this low life and get their money back?

Just a legal FYI, personal information released by condition can be grounds for dismissal in a court case if the information was obtained by inappropriate means. I'm sure if this guy is around he would be smart enough to collect this post. The only people you can legally transfer this information to is law enforcement. You can actually be risking monetary compensation by judicial decree for these people by doing that.

For laymen: Its up to authorities to subpoena information. If this fella's information was shared by him via business transaction or website registration process, it still isnt legal as a website operator or business to release it. Be very careful.

Maybe the dude's in jail.... or in the witless protection program.

I'm not worried about any legal action so please don't worry about it, but thanks for the heads up.

Im not worried about you either. Thats not what I was pointing out. You jeopardize other peoples chances of reclaiming monies by making statements like that. All it takes is a proof that they obtained evidence through non endorsed means (including investigative information) and the case can be thrown out. A good lawyer for this supposed creep or the creep himself would have already been all over this.

In a twisted sense of the means, it can eventually trail back to you too.

Hi already said he was going to sue me- still waiting for the papers.

I'm certain he has at least a half dozen bogus accounts here on Boonex - someone should check that starion90@hotmail.com address that we know is his.  Then we could get one of his fake IDs here.  Agree that is more important to get this lying con man in real life though.

I can remember him once bragging that he had a whole bunch of Licenses, so maybe that's true cos he will have got a free one with each bogus account he had in the Boonex Big License GiveAway. After what has already been disclosed I can't imagine that he actually paid money out for one.

Just a update on this post. I have had a few people contact me for info so they could try to get their money back. I am still waiting for more info from John's brother, but would like to wish all good luck in their quest to get compensated back for what John took. I hope my work has been of help, even if only 1 person get's their money back it's worth it all in the end.