Why is Trident Forum here?

We have a piece of Beta software that is pushing off topics about 7.1.5 (and 7.0.9) to sub pages.  Which means it is hard for the community to see topics where people are needing help with Dolphin.  Why isn't Trident Forum on the Trident site?

Plus, I don't know it is a Trident topic until I click, and I can not offer any help with Trident, only the developers can do that..  At least put the board on display on the quick info so I don't waste my time thinking someone needs help when it is about Trident..

Agrees !

please do as GG asked!!
Move it to a separate place on this planet... what about online.me

 Yep another Planet lol, probably mars ?

Because Boonex has gone from being an "open source community" to being a developers playground - -endlessly working on "the next big thing".   Thank you for mentioning 7.0.9 - that is clearly an orphaned, abandoned product - and it is already starting to break, which is really too bad.  People here don't realize it yet - but 7.1 is well on its way to being an orphaned abandoned product also.   Except for that security patch when was the last time it was updated - two years ago?   That "Dolphin Pro" was really a smokescreen to get people to stop talking about this issue -  it is going to have a different license so by definition it is a different product.   I just read the blog post about the security patch and it said that there will be several "alpha's" and "beta's" before it is released and that will be "months" away - if you believe even that.    Like it or not "Trident" is what has their interest now and all this other stuff is an annoyance to them.  Six months to a year from now the 7.1 forum will likely be archived and users of that version will be forced to ask their questions on a Trident forum.   It is really sad to see what has happened here.     

I suspect Andrew does not think Trident has enough moment to survive on it's own... not yet anyway.  I expect Trident discussions will remain on boonex.com for some time... more than a year.  Ideally Andrew would mirror the Trident discussions onto it's online.me website plus find a way to clearly separate the Trident discussions from the Dolphin discussions on this site.  At this point I'm not interested in Trident... maybe in a year when it has hopefully matured and evolved into a stable production platform.

That said, my long-range expectation is that Andrew will, for many years, continue to need Dolphin 7 as healthy source of business income and for that to happen he will need to constantly focus part of his energy on improving it in a way that both site developers and module developers appreciate.  Or less and less site developers will beginning using Dolphin 7 and eventually we'll all move to a competing platform that works better for our projects.

Probably because the forum was created before the split, and Trident itself doesn't have a forum module (at least at this time). Hopefully some kind of solution is made over at online.me, because people are currently using the blog, and that's beyond messy.

Just out of curiosity, does Boonex ever even come here anymore?   That company is down to basically two guys right - Andrew and Alex?   For years, this forum has been where they make support issues "go away" -  it seems like what is left of the community has to be completely up in arms for them to weigh in - I doubt they even look at it all that often.  Now, this Trident thing will dilute their efforts even further, and they never seem to be open to any creative solutions to address situations like this.  I am no encouraged - I think Boonex is all about Trident now. 

Yes, Alex comes in quite often.  If you will look at the Trident postings you will see that Alex has answered many of them.

That is fine as it is; however, these Trident postings on Boonex is making it hard for the community to see issues concerning Dolphin, both 7.1.5 and 7.0.9.  Dolphin support is through the community and Boonex is making it harder for us to offer that support.

It may be difficult to run a forum on the website where you only get invited to become a member. Why bother?

Why they only have invitations to join is perhaps because they have problems with spam. and have not managed to fix this.

We'll move Trident discussions over to online.me soon. Need to get a few fixes done first. 

AlexT and I track the forums constantly. There's also AntonL, LeonidS and IgorL in the background. 

Online.me is invitation-only because first betas typically have lots of duplicate reports and need to be limited to more experienced webmasters. 

We have some updates on DolphinPro to share. A lot has been done already and it is shaping up to be a great version. I'll post some info on Monday-Tuesday. 

Andrew is Boonex still supporting 7.0.9 for basic maintenance patches? - maybe you missed the post where this was discussed - that is why I figured you didn't come here much.  The Youtube upload has stopped working because Google made changes to the AP!,   This is a fairly major feature and 7.0.9 was one of your more stable releases - arguably more stable than the current version of 7.1, and was certainly a major investment by your company.  Do you intend to fix this or do you think it better that the community do that and essentially fork it to a maintained version?

I don't think Andrew cares about 7.0.9 issues; otherwise, why would they have removed the 7.0.9 support forum?  I say let's publish and be damned.  If Andrew doesn't like it, he can issue a cease and desist letter. LOL.  Seriously, it would be nice if we could have a space on Boonex where we can do this.

"Lab" icon was added for Trident topics to distinguish them from other topics.

 Look again Alex; if it is a post I have not read; new content, it shows the lightening bolt so I still don't know it is a Trident post until I click on it.

I normally start here. http://www.boonex.com/forums/

So far every post i have seen that has a lab icon is indeed a trident post. And those that don't have it are not.

When I'm logged out they are showing the lab icons but once I log in the lab icons go away and they either show the lightning bolt or nothing.

All this over some post.

Geez...

The issue was over Trident posts pushing off posts about Dolphin; thus making it difficult to offer the support that is the purpose of this forum.  

Thanks GG - you are absolutely correct - they have no interest in 7.0.9 - if they did they would release a patch for the Youtube issue, or at least indicate that they are planning to do so - and they wouldn't have buried the support forum in the archives.  It is pretty clear that 7.0.9 is an abandoned and orphaned product - and whether people here care to admit it or not 7.1 is going down the same road.  

I have been on this community for many years, and I can tell you what you probably already know - that they are only interested in developing "the next big thing" - never in the boring work of supporting older versions.  Every new major version has become a "funnel" which fewer and fewer people get through - which is a shame because many of their older products are quite good.   I like lots of things with 7.0.9 better than 7.1 - and I think it is more stable.    Even D6 had its strong points - the database and search were far superior to the later versions as were the way it handled profile photos.  

Has anyone established a Github repository for 7.0.9 yet?  It is clear that it is an orphaned and abandoned product.  If we could get this Youtube issue fixed that would be the start of a "community edition".  Plus we could later add minor fixes that this community has done that never made it into the version. 

It's an old version that has upgrade path to newer versions up to the current stable. If we were to issue updates to older iterations that would create an immense tree of parallel versions that nobody would be able to make any sense of. Say, we release 7.0.9.1 or 7.0.10, then we'd need to crate two upgrade packs for 7.0.9 to 7.0.10 and then 7.0.10 to 7.1 and prey that nobody would need a 7.0.11. This would be amplified with considerations like 3rd-party components versioning (TinyMCE, jQuery, RED5, Captcha, Youtube, etc) and server software versioning (PHP, MySQL, ImageMagick or Glib, etc, etc.) All I can see in such scenario is some monstrous mess of support and compatibility issues. Sure, community or whoever can fork Dolphin on GitHub and create a separate line of versions - those would still have to adhere to our licensing policy, but would not be supported by BoonEx, would not be accommodated in support forums and would not be guaranteed for any compatibility with current or future versions of DolphinPro. Sorry, I don't see any potential in this. 

As for 7.1 - it's the major priority - still is and will continue to be. We are now working on the next iteration - 7.2, which will be a direct upgrade with new features and lots of improvements. It will not be a HUGE update though, in sense that it wouldn't necessitate significant changes in 3rd-party extensions/mods and would be highly unlikely to break anything significant at all.