Upgrading Dolphin is a Pain

Every time Dolphin upgrades it's becoming a real pain going through all the market modules to see if they are keeping up.

One has, another hasn't.

Some module version numbers change, others don't.

Updated dates on the modules may be altered without any clue as to whether certain files need to be uploaded again, or not.

If anyone is considering purchasing Dolphin, I would have to advise them to think very carefully about whether the out of the box package does everything they want.

Using the module marketplace is both costly and very time consuming. Add to that any customisation you might want to make, and you could find yourself permanently in development; or slowly going bald through periodically tearing your hair out.

How can people concentrate on building a community if they have to keep fixing the back-end?

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Quote · 17 Mar 2016

Perhaps it would be better to cut our losses and remove all the modules that need patches and upgrades, then do a complete new start with Dolphin 7.3.0.

How are others dealing with moving from 7.1.6 to 7.3.0?

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Quote · 17 Mar 2016

Subscribe to the modules support forum for modules you're using. You should get notification when its updated to work with 7.3, then do the upgrade?

so much to do....
Quote · 17 Mar 2016

I subscribe to them all but the problem is some vendors upgrade (or announce patches to problems people report) and some do not, so we spend months waiting for the others to catch up.

Now Dolphin announces the next release and the (7.3.0) cycle starts again, before some vendors have completed the last (7.2.0) lap of checks.

 

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Quote · 17 Mar 2016

 Maybe the solution is for boonex to release the updates to the developers 1 month prior to the public release ... thus giving the developers sufficient leeway to update their mods to coincide with the dolphin releases?

Every time Dolphin upgrades it's becoming a real pain going through all the market modules to see if they are keeping up.

One has, another hasn't.

Some module version numbers change, others don't.

Updated dates on the modules may be altered without any clue as to whether certain files need to be uploaded again, or not.

If anyone is considering purchasing Dolphin, I would have to advise them to think very carefully about whether the out of the box package does everything they want.

Using the module marketplace is both costly and very time consuming. Add to that any customisation you might want to make, and you could find yourself permanently in development; or slowly going bald through periodically tearing your hair out.

How can people concentrate on building a community if they have to keep fixing the back-end?

 

Quote · 17 Mar 2016

I presumed that's what 'Beta' releases, 'service' versions and 'Release Candidates' were for.

https://www.boonex.com/notes/category/dolphin.pro-news

Andrew Boon posted 24th of August 2015 - Dolphin.Pro 7.2 Release Candidate

Today we are releasing Dolphin.Pro 7.2 RC. This update is particularly important for all developers who have extensions in BoonEx Market. There will be no or only minor changes from RC to Final, so now is the best time to update your extensions to ensure compatibility. Remember, Market will be listing only 7.2-compatible extensions as Featured.

So yes, they do; but no, not everyone does.

Embarassed

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Quote · 18 Mar 2016

One site break and a roll back later and everything just sits in limbo.

Wondering whether it's better to just remove some of the modules?

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Modules I have installed
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Profile Cover from emmetbytes
http://www.boonex.com/m/profile-cover-2013-05-21

Profile Composer from AntonLV
http://www.boonex.com/m/Profile_Composer_2010_08_11

Searchable fields from AntonLV
http://www.boonex.com/m/Searchable_fields

Premium Groups from modzzz
http://www.boonex.com/m/Premium_Groups_Events_News_Venue_Sponsors_Maps

Locations from modzzz
http://www.boonex.com/m/Locations_Events_Hotels_Transport_Eateries_Shops_Nightlife

Lodgings (Places to Stay) from modzzz
http://www.boonex.com/m/hotels

Head Injections from deano92964
http://www.boonex.com/m/Head_Injections

Affiliate/Referrals System from AntonLV
http://www.boonex.com/m/Affiliate_Referrals_System

Ultimate Points - With Levels from modzz
http://www.boonex.com/m/Ultimate_Points_With_Levels

Deanos Tools
http://www.boonex.com/m/Deanos_Tools_V1_6_Dolphin_7_0_Version

Restaurants
http://www.boonex.com/m/restaurants

Business Listings
http://www.boonex.com/m/Premium_Business_Listings

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Quote · 21 Mar 2016

I've been going through my old change notes and see that a lot of the new Dolphin 7.2.0 files will overwrite the changed files.

As most of those modules also have a few older patches I should probably add, before the upgrade starts, it's going to get messy.

No wonder so many Dolphin sites I've been looking over recently don't seem to progress much.

Undecided

There needs to be a way for better integration between the main Dolphin script and modules on the market?

I thought the 'Check For Updates' on the Installed Modules was to lead us in that direction; but I guess it doesn't.

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Quote · 21 Mar 2016

A lot of modules aren't affected, but Profile cover crashed when I updated. I had to do a full install and rebuild my very small test database to get it to work properly. That only took a week considering the hundreds of CSS mods I've made to my site. I didn't bother writing to them because they're not good at answering their mail. I did receive a bulk email this morning saying there was an update, but I'd already installed that. The problem with Profile Cover and another of the vendor's products is that the uninstall doesn't work. It leaves junk in the database and the module still shows in the installed modules section even though it's not there.

Quote · 21 Mar 2016

So, Go or No Go for an update from 7.2 to 7.3? I'm using EvoWall and Advanced Articles, News, Sites, etc. from Modzzz, along with a few others.

And as far as Chat+ is concerned, what would be the monthly cost of the combination of Dolphin Pro, a dedicated server and maintenance/support to get WebRTC going? If someone has gone this route, I'd like to pick your brain a little bit. It sounds good in theory, but not if it is a hassle to support.

 

thanks, CHOPS

Quote · 1 Apr 2016
 
 
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