Shoutbox Posts and Blog link at footer

Hi All,

I have a couple quick questions.

With the Shoutbox module, I came across a thread quite a while back discussing a desire to have the Shoutbox post messages from top to bottom, with the newest messages at the top. I didn't find a surefire concrete solution though. I wanted to see if anyone could maybe share a solution to this if one has been found. Any solutions for this?  

Also, when I first implemented a link at the footer of my site leading to my wordpress blog, I created it as nameofsite.com/wp. I'd like to change this to nameofsite.com/blog. I'm not sure if this is supposed to be as complex as its seeming so far. It was incredibly easy to create this the first time. Can someone advise me on how to make this change? 

Thanks in advance. 

 Did you add it through the Bottom Menu builder in the admin?  If so, then just change the text to anything you like and keep the URL the same.

Not having used WP before, not sure of its file structures and the way it calls for things. If it is anything like dolphin where the file path is specifically defined, then there may be a little bit of fiddling.

First off, you would need to change the folder name from wp to blog. Second, change the link in the menu builder from yoursite.com/wp to yoursite.com/blog. But after thinking about this - blog may not be a term you can use successfully with your needs. I say this because there are some redirects and rewrites in the .htaccess file that refer to blog, and may cause some problems. But, if not using the dolphin blog module, you may be able to remove these references in the .htaccess file.

Other than that, if WP defines the file path, you wold have to change it from home/cpanel_username/public_html/wp to home/cpanel_username/public_html/blog. Or however your files are structured.

I guess I should have asked what the person wanted to do.  If you just want to change the link wording, that is easy.  If you want to do more than that, then please be specific.

Yes, please - more info. More specifically - if you ahve already changed the url to yoursite.com/blog in the menu builder, then the issue may be related to the .htaccess file. Or, if you had not changed the folder name from wp to blog, and again, the .htaccess file may be the problem. But we would need to know a little bit more, such as what you have done as well as the exact response (or as close of an explanation as you can give), error messages, or whatever response that you are getting when making this change and clicking the link.

Thanks geek_girl and ProfessorSr for your responses. 

I attempted to change the URL a short while ago. When I did this, I had a "404 directory not found-litespeed" error page, something to that effect, and my wordpress blog was inaccessible. Just now, I tried to simply change .com/wp to .com/blog in the bottom menu builder. Similar error occurred, but an easy fix unlike last time. I think I may need to modify the path and the folders.

What I wanted to do is actually change the URL, not just the name of what the link says at the footer. I am actually using the dolphin blog module also. I felt that mysite.com/blog is much better than the mysite.com/wp I have now. However, if there's much involved in changing it, then it may not be worth the effort. 

Thanks!

If you changed the actual URL over at the WP site, then you need to change the URL in the menu builder.

Since it is off of Dolphin, it should have been a full URL to the blog.  So if you changed the WP site so that the site is now in say /var/www/html/blog from /var/www/html/wp and then changed the vhost to reflect that, then what you do on Dolphin is to change the text for the link, you know, like this <a href="URL">This is the text you see</a> and then for the URL you put http://mysite.com/blog.

What you need to tell us is exactly what you did, using your fake URL is OK, but we need to know exactly what you did both at the wordpress blog as well as with Dolphin.  Otherwise, we can not help you.

you may not be able to use the term 'blog' then. If you look in the .htaccess file, you will se a bunch of lines referencing the 'blogs'. These redirects and rewrites will most likely interfere with accessing your wp blog site.

I must be completely lost on this one.  If I put a link in the footer menu to my offiste blog, http://myniftysite.tld/blog then it should work without any problem.

 Hi geek_girl,

Thanks for the insight. The link to my offsite blog is working fine, at the current location: .com/wp

I was trying to change the URL and thats when the problem occurred. I've been trying to retrace my steps, but cannot remember exactly where I went wrong. I should have posted in the forum sooner. I thought this may have been something others incurred before. 

When the issue happened, I contacted my hosting company and told them that my wordpress blog was inaccessible. They told me that when I changed the URL there was no directory found and that was the problem. I looked back at our email conversations at that time and found that they provided this link to me: http://codex.wordpress.org/Changing_The_Site_URL

I believe I need to handle this both on wordpress end and the corresponding folder with my site. Still not sure if its worth the effort. I remember someone suggesting an alternative and faster way. Also, I wouldn't want to have any issues, such as what ProferssorSr was mentioning. 

I think we are starting to flesh this out a bit.  Changing the URL and changing the directory are two different things.

OK, are you using cPanel or some control panel?

Is Dolphin on the same host as the WP install?

How do you have the directory structure set up on the host for Dolphin and WP?

It is sort of a pain to draw out directory trees in the post but try.

For example, let's say I installed Dolphin to the root of the domain and that I then added a WP site in a sub-folder/sub-directory off of the root.

Then my Dolphin site is address by the domain that points to the root, http://my-dolphin-site.tld/  and my WP site is address by http://my-dolphin-site.tld/wp

Let's say I wanted to change that wp without reinstalling my WP site.  First step of course is to know how WP sets up the site structure and what will be needed to change that /wp to /blog.  For example, if I had Dolphin set up in a subdirectory and wanted to change the name, I know I have to head into the /inc/header.inc.php file and tell Dolphin what my new site root is.  The same probably needs to be done with WP.  I am not a WP person, I perfer Quam Plures as a blogging platform.  However, I am sure you need to tell WP that the site is no longer in /wp and will be found in /blog.  If you need help with this, you can probably find the answer on the WP forum.  If need be, I will be willing to help you as well.

Another note is that if you have people linking to your http://mysite.tld/wp, you will need to place a bit in your .htaccess file (if running Apache or Apache-like servers) that will tell the browsers to update their links to your site and it will send them to the correct directory to fetch your WP site.  We can help you with that as well.

you know - let's start at the beginning - what is the url of your site. Either you can PM if you are not comfortable with showing your site url yet. With this, we can see exactly what is going on from a first hand experience. Then we can help give more specific answers to resolve your issue. Also, put everything back to how it was originally - with the yoursite.com/wp - because this was working. My initial thoughts are to just add:

RewriteRule ^blog/?$ /wp [QSA,L]

This would change what is seen in the url, but actually still be accessing yoursite.com/wp. And since it was working fine with the wp, this may be the simplest solution for you.

 RE:

 I'm curious.  Why wold you want to do this? It's not the way most languages of the world are read.  If however, you are building a site for the Tagbanua, I understand your need.

 Thanks for your response!

Yes, I am using cPanel. 

Yes, Dolphin is on same host as WP install. 

Yes, my WP is in a sub folder/root off of the root. 

I think I get the general idea of what you're suggesting needs to be done. I will revisit the WP link I posted on how to do this and relate your suggestions on how to perform this with dolphin in mind and see if I have a better understanding of what needs to be done. Seems like there's more involved than I anticipated. 

Issue resolved for the wp to blog rename.

the issue was the settings for the wp - there is a database teble that stores the siteurl and path - similar to what dolphin has. This has been changed and now things are fine. (except for pics and anything else that is specifically referenced as /wp. Those will need to be changed to /blog.