Profile Fields and Search

I have checked on the Boonex Demo site - and it is also there:

 

The Sex and Looking For fields are mislabeled by default in the Profiles Search section. The Sex is labeled as "Looking For" and the Looking For is labeled as "I Am". This causes confusion in the search function.

 

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Quote · 19 Dec 2016

It's intentionally. 

If one user is "Sex" = Woman and "Looking For" = Men.

Then when this user perform search then these fields are swapped, so for this particular user search result should return profiles which have "Sex" = Man and "Looking For" = Woman. 

Then this user will find members which are interested in their profile as well.

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Quote · 31 Dec 2016

what you said is backwards from what you think it should be. If I am a man looking for a woman - then why is the search labeled incorrectly.

 

Looking For means what a member is looking for - not what sex a member is. So, if I am looking for members who are females - then I would simply search the Sex field for females. But since the sex field is labeled as Looking For - it is incorrect and should be changed.

 

If I wanted to find members who are looking for males - then I would select males in the Looking For field - but as it is - being labeled as sex - this is incorrect. and should be changed.

 

So now - If I wanted to find members who are females - I would select females in the Sex field - but since it is mislabeled - it is returning results of members who are looking for females - not members who are females - which is what I am looking for.

And vice versa. If I am looking for members who are looking for males - the way it is now - it will return results of members who are males - again - not what it should be.

If this was intentional - then I would suggest changing it. Common sense makes these fields confusing and misleading.

caredesign.net
Quote · 31 Dec 2016

 

what you said is backwards from what you think it should be. If I am a man looking for a woman - then why is the search labeled incorrectly.

 

Looking For means what a member is looking for - not what sex a member is. So, if I am looking for members who are females - then I would simply search the Sex field for females. But since the sex field is labeled as Looking For - it is incorrect and should be changed.

 

If I wanted to find members who are looking for males - then I would select males in the Looking For field - but as it is - being labeled as sex - this is incorrect. and should be changed.

 

So now - If I wanted to find members who are females - I would select females in the Sex field - but since it is mislabeled - it is returning results of members who are looking for females - not members who are females - which is what I am looking for.

And vice versa. If I am looking for members who are looking for males - the way it is now - it will return results of members who are males - again - not what it should be.

If this was intentional - then I would suggest changing it. Common sense makes these fields confusing and misleading.

 

Yes, I agree it makes absolutely no sense, the system names for these two profile fields are completely backwards and it's would be very confusing for most customers/users. One simple solution is to change the captions and exchange names for these two profile fields by edit language strings, but I agree that boonex should change the default captions/names for the profile fields, it's obvious that for most people the names/captions are confusing...

Quote · 1 Jan 2017

After thinking about this a bit more - I think I am understanding Boonex's logic - although it may be a bit overthought - in my opinion.

 

I am a Male looking for a Female

 

Reading the search like that, yes, the results should be female members who have selected male in looking for .

Basically - I am a male looking for females in reverse.

 

Only issue I see with this - let the searching member define their own search. I may be a man looking for a woman, but she can be a woman looking for another woman for all I care. Just let me search for female members. And same point - I may be wanting to find members who are looking for a man. I do not care what gender they are. So I would select male in the "Looking For" field. Which leads to my next point.

 

I look at each field independently - whereas, I believe you may be viewing these two fields as one entity - similar to the location set. If you take away one field - your reasoning does not give the correct results, though. Keep in mind - we do not have to use all fields in the search. I can choose to have the Looking For field, but not the I Am A field and vice versa.

 

If you just have the "I Am" (male) field - this makes the search = All members who are male - your results would be members who are looking for males - instead of other members who are males.

If you just have the "Looking For" (female) field - this makes the search = All members who are looking for female members - your results would be members who are females - instead of members who are looking for females.

 

So, in my opinion, to simplify things - label the fields appropriately and let the members define their own search. It would be much simpler I believe.

 

Looking For = Looking For

Sex = Member Sex

 

So, now - if I want to search for members who are females and looking for a male - then I would select male in Looking For, and female in Member Sex.

 

As was mentioned before, it is easy for us to do in the language settings, that is really not the point. The point is that it is a confusing nature and deserved at least a little bit of looking into - at least for future references. And not even necessarily to change the labels - but maybe a post explaining the setup of those fields and how they work and that they must both be present if using either one of them. Just something so that we dont have to sit here and try to decipher what Boonex is thinking (no matter how fun it may be at times). And then have to translate to our users (an extremely annoying thing to have to do).

caredesign.net
Quote · 1 Jan 2017

You have a good point, IMO it all depends on what situation and type of website, for a dating website I definitely believe the best format would be, I Am a male (old dirty bastard) Looking for a female (young naughty girls) etc. However, this might not be the most optimal search logic in other situations...

 

After thinking about this a bit more - I think I am understanding Boonex's logic - although it may be a bit overthought - in my opinion.

 

I am a Male looking for a Female

 

Reading the search like that, yes, the results should be female members who have selected male in looking for .

Basically - I am a male looking for females in reverse.

 

Only issue I see with this - let the searching member define their own search. I may be a man looking for a woman, but she can be a woman looking for another woman for all I care. Just let me search for female members. And same point - I may be wanting to find members who are looking for a man. I do not care what gender they are. So I would select male in the "Looking For" field. Which leads to my next point.

 

I look at each field independently - whereas, I believe you may be viewing these two fields as one entity - similar to the location set. If you take away one field - your reasoning does not give the correct results, though. Keep in mind - we do not have to use all fields in the search. I can choose to have the Looking For field, but not the I Am A field and vice versa.

 

If you just have the "I Am" (male) field - this makes the search = All members who are male - your results would be members who are looking for males - instead of other members who are males.

If you just have the "Looking For" (female) field - this makes the search = All members who are looking for female members - your results would be members who are females - instead of members who are looking for females.

 

So, in my opinion, to simplify things - label the fields appropriately and let the members define their own search. It would be much simpler I believe.

 

Looking For = Looking For

Sex = Member Sex

 

So, now - if I want to search for members who are females and looking for a male - then I would select male in Looking For, and female in Member Sex.

 

As was mentioned before, it is easy for us to do in the language settings, that is really not the point. The point is that it is a confusing nature and deserved at least a little bit of looking into - at least for future references. And not even necessarily to change the labels - but maybe a post explaining the setup of those fields and how they work and that they must both be present if using either one of them. Just something so that we dont have to sit here and try to decipher what Boonex is thinking (no matter how fun it may be at times). And then have to translate to our users (an extremely annoying thing to have to do).

 

Quote · 1 Jan 2017

Let me chime in with feedback from clients I have helped; many come back telling me the search results do not return accurate results.  It could be because it is not set up in a logical way for people to understand and get search set up to return accurate results.

I would welcome a developer writing a better search engine and sell it as a module in the market.

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Quote · 1 Jan 2017

It's setup properly, and there is possibility to choose anything by combining "A am a" and "Looking for" fields. I understand that it's a bit of trick that in search options in fields builder these fields are swapped, but it's necessary for the correct search - "Looking for" must search in "Sex" field and not in the same field, finally it makes no sense to search for all profiles which looking for woman if you are looking for woman, you need to find all women!

It maybe it will be more easier to understand if you look at Admin panel > Builders > Predefined Values > Sex > Have a look at LKey2 field here.

Rules → http://www.boonex.com/terms
Quote · 7 Jan 2017

Okay, I realize now that it's all setup properly, at first it can seem a bit confusing but after giving this a bit more thought it makes perfect sense. Sorry about criticizing the logic here, I'm learning more about Boonex system, web development and coding in general every day, and it's all starting to make a lot more sense, think Dolphin Pro is great, and I am looking forward to begin working on una.io based websites in the future. Thank you Alex for clarifying this issue!

 

It's setup properly, and there is possibility to choose anything by combining "A am a" and "Looking for" fields. I understand that it's a bit of trick that in search options in fields builder these fields are swapped, but it's necessary for the correct search - "Looking for" must search in "Sex" field and not in the same field, finally it makes no sense to search for all profiles which looking for woman if you are looking for woman, you need to find all women!

It maybe it will be more easier to understand if you look at Admin panel > Builders > Predefined Values > Sex > Have a look at LKey2 field here.

 

Quote · 7 Jan 2017
 
 
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