Please add safety net for deleting members...

Dolphin RC2. It is easy to accidentally delete members from the admin panel. There is no "Are you sure you want to delete member(s)?" pop-up. Since there is to safety, I can foresee an accident if I only mean to "confirm email"  or "unban".

Quote · 7 Dec 2009

There is no need for such confirmations for admin, it will make unnececessary delays in site's administration. It is supposed that admin  is aware of the controls he/she has and knows what he/she is doing.

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Quote · 8 Dec 2009

There is no need for such confirmations for admin, it will make unnececessary delays in site's administration. It is supposed that admin  is aware of the controls he/she has and knows what he/she is doing.

 

Thats a load of bull and i disagree completly. Like you never deleted something by mistake and had to restore from a backup or are you just that perfect ?

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Quote · 8 Dec 2009

 

There is no need for such confirmations for admin, it will make unnececessary delays in site's administration. It is supposed that admin  is aware of the controls he/she has and knows what he/she is doing.

 I agree with Alex...

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Quote · 8 Dec 2009

 I too agree with Alex.

There is no need for such confirmations for admin, it will make unnececessary delays in site's administration. It is supposed that admin  is aware of the controls he/she has and knows what he/she is doing.

 

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Quote · 8 Dec 2009

And i suppose when you delete members or any rows from phpmyadmin, mysql is stupid for asking are sure you want to drop these rows ?

 

jpomichter

if you like you can open administration/profiles.php and around line 202 you will find the buttons array. You can move the delete button to the bottom of the array and you will be least likly to click on it at the end of the list after the confirmation button.

 

function PageCodeMembers($sDefaultCtl = BX_DOL_ADM_MP_CTL, $sDefaultView = BX_DOL_ADM_MP_VIEW) {
    //--- Get Controls ---//
    $aButtons = array(
        'adm-mp-activate' => _t('_adm_btn_mp_activate'),
        'adm-mp-deactivate' => _t('_adm_btn_mp_deactivate'),
        'adm-mp-ban' => _t('_adm_btn_mp_ban'),
        'adm-mp-unban' => _t('_adm_btn_mp_unban'),
        'adm-mp-confirm' => _t('_adm_btn_mp_confirm'),
  'adm-mp-delete' => _t('_adm_btn_mp_delete')
    );

 

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Quote · 8 Dec 2009

It is much easier to "accidently" place bad scripting in an SQL script than it is to:

- Enter the Admin Panel

- Click Members

- Put a check mark by a member's name

- Click the delete button.

I would have to agree with AlexT as well. Although I understand your request, I too would think that before you complete those 4 steps above, you would know whether or not you were about to delete a member.

Chris

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Quote · 8 Dec 2009

thank you, everyone, for your input. My concern is that later down the road if I hire someone to run my company/website,  I can worry less... I have, in fact, accidently deleted emails, etc. from other applications as dolphin_jay has mentioned.

 

Secondly, I might ad that dolphin software and social networking sites in general are "Membership" based, as opposed to "subscriber" based. I would hate for myself, or someone that works for me, to attempt to send a system wide message to users (for example), check "all" members in a list/page, and accidentally delete a full page of users.  Mistakes happen. I don't think a confirmation alert for sending messages, banning, or confirming emails is necessary, but I think this "safety" alert for deleting members is well justified...

 

I would be happy to add this function myself if anyone knows how to accomplish this.

Quote · 10 Dec 2009

ha ha ha....

all i can say about this is it seems Micro$oft has brainwashed em all. If you are going to work with a computer it would be similar to operating a motor vehicle. do you need a chime bell in your car to warn you that you are putting the car in Drive or Reverse, no, as a practiced operator of the vehicle,  you know the procedure for operating that car. Accidents still happen, operators get careless, take shortcuts, dont pay attention, similarly to managing or operating a website, or any mass-used file content system.

I disagree with having an "are you sure?" are you really sure that you are sure?", "are you positive that you are sure?". this is truly what i found disturbing about Vista, is that it asked you multiple times if you were sure you wanted to do anything.

at any rate, good think i dont have to verify i want to submit this post eh?

Regards,

DosDawg

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Quote · 10 Dec 2009

thank you, everyone, for your input. My concern is that later down the road if I hire someone to run my company/website,  I can worry less... I have, in fact, accidently deleted emails, etc. from other applications as dolphin_jay has mentioned.

Secondly, I might ad that dolphin software and social networking sites in general are "Membership" based, as opposed to "subscriber" based. I would hate for myself, or someone that works for me, to attempt to send a system wide message to users (for example), check "all" members in a list/page, and accidentally delete a full page of users.  Mistakes happen. I don't think a confirmation alert for sending messages, banning, or confirming emails is necessary, but I think this "safety" alert for deleting members is well justified...

I would be happy to add this function myself if anyone knows how to accomplish this.

if you hire somebody to run your website, please make sure they are a qualified individual who knows how to manage a website.

it wouldnt be wise to get the pizza delivery kid who just got his first laptop to manage your website with little or no experience in managing a website.

funny thing here is that i once got a call from a relative who had just recently purchased a new computer. 'hey, my computer is broken', ok whats broken?, 'i have all kinds of error messages'. ok what'd you do? 'nothing'.

this answer always worries me.

ok so as you were doing nothing, what'd you delete? 'oh i was in a system32 folder and there were files in there that i didnt put in there, so i deleted them', you deleted files from system32? 'yes'

ok here is an example, the relative had certainly used a computer before, had even owned one or two, but for some reason on this particular machine, decided to explore.

i thought it was funny, and yes eventually went over and helped reinstall the OS. so as you can see, there is no net that would catch this, and i have worked with some huge nets trolling the Gulf of Mexico dragging in shrimp.

Regards,

DosDawg

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Quote · 10 Dec 2009

One of the good things about Dolphin is that it is very much open in terms of changing the script.  If you want this feature and Dolphin will not put it in then put it in yourself.  If you cannot do that yourself head over to scriptlance and hire someone for a few $ do to it for you, problem solved.

Quote · 10 Dec 2009

funny thing here is that i once got a call from a relative who had just recently purchased a new computer. 'hey, my computer is broken', ok whats broken?, 'i have all kinds of error messages'. ok what'd you do? 'nothing'.

I hear that all the time.

Another one of my favorites. "I had a friend who is a computer expert work on my computer."

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Quote · 10 Dec 2009

Dolphin has a great backup and restore system.   If you are working on your member profiles, it is certainly worth the minute it takes to backup your profile table.

Quote · 10 Dec 2009

It doesn't make a difference to me one way or the other, but I can understand both points of view.

Perhaps there is some middle ground here.  Instead of a fancy popup window that required a bunch of code that asked "Are you sure", why not something simple like an additional checkbox like:

[  ] Confirm Delete?

where unless this box was checked, the delete button would be disabled.  Then, just move the delete button all the way to the right, to get it away from the rest of the action buttons.  

Even if a delete confirmation were not added, it wouldn't hurt to move that delete button all the way to the right, away from the rest of the buttons.

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Quote · 10 Dec 2009

This should be really easy to do, and would lessen the possibility of inadvertently clicking the 'Delete' button.

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Quote · 10 Dec 2009

Good idea Houston!

Quote · 10 Dec 2009

HL is just full of ideas :) This would definitely be an alternative to the current layout.

Chris

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Quote · 10 Dec 2009

http://www.boonex.com/trac/dolphin/ticket/1596

It should help the spastic,  heavy-handed individuals with an erratic mouse pointer.

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Quote · 10 Dec 2009

http://www.boonex.com/trac/dolphin/ticket/1596

It should help the spastic,  heavy-handed individuals with an erratic mouse pointer.

OMG, that last statement had me laughing so hard I choked on my tea. Now all my co-workers and employees  are wondering if I am OK.

You should warn us before posting comic material such as this with ::LAUGHTER AHEAD:: or something.


Chris

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Quote · 10 Dec 2009
 
 
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