Open your eyes all of you and switch to IE.

Yes, most of you here are bit more advanced compare to the normal user out there and of course most of you got the sense to use a proper browser such as FF or Netscape..., but PLEASE don't forget that 70% are using IE, which means your site will be unreachable.

Users with over 10 MBs broadband please don't say it's ok wirth IE, as not everybody has this speed...

so....  A BIG DISASTER!

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Dolphin 7 works on IE okay. What are you referring to exactly?

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Dolphin 7 works on IE okay. What are you referring to exactly?

he wants to say "what if somebody uses both IE and has a dial-up connection?"

the developers always code for ff or safari, because both are more reliable in terms of web standards.. IE8 is still a mess.. so if you go with IE on development you go nowhere.. so the software is first tested in ff/safari and then adapted to the old grandpa - IE (and this just because is still used by 65% of the users.. - can't figure out why..?)

so there will be fixes for IE..

if you want to make dolphin lighter you can always disable it's modules, get the promo block off (the header with the 5 big images) and make a custom skin.. there are ways to make dolphin lighter, but that depends what is your target of people..

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I wonder if you're english/europe there gbjetnet? I say that 'cos ive seen a trend with my members, if they are state side they tend to prefer FF, but uk still seem to prefer IE or havent really thought about changing it to anything else. What browser you use seems to be a cultural thing unless you know whats what, and then switch to FF, so its not quite true that 70% of users use IE, it depends where your audience comes from, to what seems to be the norm, for me it seems most people use FF, but thats just my members and where they come from i guess.

regards

tyke

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Yes thats right, but if you look at your servers inlog , then most conecctions are IE 6 and 7 ...
if these users have to many time needed to get the site on screen, they leave and not coming back. 

I know that also more and more users going over to other browsers, and the new windows version in europe coming ut end this year is without IE. So people can make their own choice for the browser...

Kids first
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I wonder if you're english/europe there gbjetnet? I say that 'cos ive seen a trend with my members, if they are state side they tend to prefer FF, but uk still seem to prefer IE or havent really thought about changing it to anything else. What browser you use seems to be a cultural thing unless you know whats what, and then switch to FF, so its not quite true that 70% of users use IE, it depends where your audience comes from, to what seems to be the norm, for me it seems most people use FF, but thats just my members and where they come from i guess.

regards

tyke

Hi tyke, I am from London UK and please believe me it's not just Europe the whole world is still using IE. Most hosting providers are offering a free site statistic script, if you've got one have a look at the browsers visits:

Totally domination of IE.

And I still can't understand what's wrong with people?

Regarding my browser, it's not just one. I've got 8 different browsers where Netscape is one of my favourite.

Regards!

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If you want to speed up your dolphin and make it work for everyone then you need to set it in a manner that makes it easier for browsers to load:

 

1.  Don't load up every single page with every possible field you can think of. 

 

2.  Dump the promo block off, go to templates/base/page_1.html and just remove __promo_code__ and this will greatly speed up your load time for those with poor connections. 

 

3.  Gzip the dang thing up.  This will allow the browsers to grab it, load it and resolve it a whole lot faster.

 

4.  Cache as much of it as you can.  If you cache all items that do not need to be called from the server every time then you will do a much better job of improving resolve time and making members happy.

 

5.  Yes, we need to build these dang sites to load in IE, whether we like IE or not because our end users are running IE 65% of the time and our job is to cater to our members.  Telling members to go get FF, Safari, Opera and so on is not a solution and most will just find another site.  It's simply a sad fact of life. 

 

6.  Give members links on our sites for them to update/upgrade the items they will need to run our sites so it is convenient for them.  How much room does an adobe air link really take if it gives them the opportunity to run the desktop?  In the end, items such as these will set us far apart from the rest. 

 

In the end, as webmasters/site owners or whatever you want to call yourself, it's our JOB to make these sites as user friendly as possible while directing them down the exact road we want them to go.

 

Gawd do I hate it when GBJETNET makes me talk like this and I have to admit he's right.  Dang it!!

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Its a real problem with the browsers i must admit. I just dont understand why the browser makers cant get togther and have some standard protocol because the situation as it stands now is crazy.

I know of this problem too well running many different makes of forums, non of them look or work the same in every browser and its so frustrating when your trying to get things working for each one. Nothing is consistent either, what i mean is, i have a forum where firefox displays it correctly but some effects dont work, the effects work in IE but the forum doesnt display properly.. Aaaarrrgggg. Then everytime the browser updates itself you get a different set of problems. the trouble is, there isnt one browser that people prefer on the whole and it doesnt help that IE is supplied with most PC's, but the programme/template makers tend to use FF and on the whole forget (or dont care) to test it on other browsers for compatability so you just get stuck with this never ending circle.

I wont even mention new browsers like this Google chrome that gets hyped to death so everybody want to have a go with it and it doesnt even work properly. I really dont envy anybody trying to make dolphin work on all browsers.

Regards

Tyke

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It is a fact that Dolphin 7 loads considerably slower in IE than FF.  I'm pretty sure Boonex is aware of this, and I'm pretty sure the issues wil be resolved by the time D7 goes gold.

My opinions expressed on this site, in no way represent those of Boonex or Boonex employees.
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