Dolphin vs Jomsocial

Hi, I am struggling and can't not decide wether Dolphin is my software for my community.
I tried Jomsocial as well and I cannot remember having to delete so many fake members.

What do you think is the benefit of using Dolphin?

/Bjorn 

I wouldn't let spammers deter you from choosing Dolphin.  Besides the new reCaptcha support, there are a few topics in the forums about ways to handle spammers, from simple question fields to splitting the join form across multiple pages.

OK, but I have been really having problems using Facebook connect and when having spam controlled on members cannot log in at all to my site. just a lot of work

 does NOTHING!!

with 7.1.x we are still having to do our own "human" question to the join forms.

Once the default 7.1 site is found, the reCAPTCHA does nothing, it's almost worse than that of 7.0.x

So I can add a question of my own instead?

 Of course!

http://www.boonex.com/forums/topic/spam-spam-spam-spam-IDEA-.htm

You did not mention what version of dolphin your using.

But yes, you can add questions of your own, and there are other options in the market for spam control as well.

I am using 7.1

The problems with Dolphin are the common URL's used, the spammers know them all.

I had so many problems with blogs spam, I removed the blogs module.

Once that was removed the "sites" were the next attack, removed that module, the fill in their description field with site links.

It goes on and on, you have to have a team on top at all times.

common spam searchs

•  inurl:/m/sites/view/
•  inurl:blogs/home
•  site:.com/m/sites/view/

I went on vacation for a month and still am cleaning up several sites of these accounts.

Well that is just the problem I donnot have time to do all that. it is really a pity as I like the easy way of using Dolphin, but I really hesitate getting a license if I still have to be that much hands on to stop all spams.

 What modules, and why should we pay for yet another module that should be core in stopping spam.

bjornhermansson

Be forewarned about the market, purchase only after extensive research, ask questions here in the forums first about ANY module you are thinking about purchasing, the market here has gotten a bit better, but not much!

 I too am starting to steer away from Dolphin after three years of nothing but bug control, keeps me busy yes, but I'm tired of it.

I hear feverish typing going on...

Well, mine for one. As for why, i can't answer that. I developed one to answer the call for the need for one works and will continue to get better.

I love you Deano but a mod to control spam really isn't that necessary. The human question has stopped all but the most hardy attempts to spam my site. My site has been out there in the real world since 2009 and the human question was all it took to stop all the autobots.

I agree with everyone else, just disconnect and remove the worthless captcha system. It does nothing to stop them and just annoys your users.

Of course, you will still get the random "human" spammer but how much effort do you think they put into the project? What could be more boring than manually spamming sites? Removing a single spammer once every two weeks takes very little time..

Also, anyone determined to manually spam your site isn't going to be deterred by any of the methods displayed here and you will have to manually defeat them.

Just my 1.5 cents worth.

[edit] two one? lol

Even with the question, changing that question monthly, I still have more than "two" to control.

There are many, many "manual" spammers; I would show you the site but you might fall off your office chair.

I have no blogs, e-mail checking (on), mandatory photo on upload, and the human question; still getting human spammers.

The question you should ask is if you want an application designed for social networking or an application designed for content management with some code slapped on top of it to try and make it a social networking application; and this is stated right on the front page.  It is the same for Wordpress; Buddypress is just code slapped on top to try and make Wordpress a social networking application.  You can use a rock for a hammer but it makes a poor hammer.

As for an application being targeted by spammers, yes, any application that has open code will be targeted.  I see a lot of attacks on my server for wordpress.  Recently there was a large attack on Wordpress sites looking for sites that kept the default login of admin.

Now here is a fact about single sign-ons; once it has been cracked, stolen, etc, it is going to let the person holding it access to all sites using that sign-on.  People want ease of use because they tend to be lazy.  I don't plan on offering Facebook connect, ever.  I am thinking about Open ID.  Microsoft tried to get some control with their single sign-on.  Letting some organisation such as Facebook or Microsoft be your single sign-on is foolish.  Look at the privacy and security issues abound with Facebook and you are going to let people connect to your site using Facebook connect?  I don't think so.

Oh, I forgot to mention... Groups are under attack too.

I tired of keeping track of all this so I just let it go...

http://duvallocals.com/m/groups/home/

I am not seeing this amount of spamming.  It could be they tend to attack the higher ranked sites.  I am blocking China and Poland; sorry if anyone is from those countries, because I saw most of the spam attack from them.

 Yes the site is popular for only events. I guess I will remove the groups module.

The site is not geared for members, just FB events.

And this is with "akismet" and all the spam features turned on and activated, just useless shit added to the core.

hmmm! this is going out of topic 

No, I'm over Dolphin and we are discussing the flaws... or I am just bitching I guess, anyway who cares!

There are other social networking solutions available for wordpress... buddypress is not the best one by far.

WP already has full site membership inclusion with admin control over what different user levels can and cannot do.

Take a good SN theme that makes user profiles look better then brings them to the forefront and you have a profile driven social network. Already has great blogging. Groups, events and all that stuff is included in a single good SN theme. Ive built a SN site using WP in a few hours that can do pretty much all that Dolphin can do, its what you're used to at the end of the day.

Main pain for me with Dolphin has been the lack of mobile friendliness, that seems to be being made better though with the recent responsive layout developments (by 3rd party developers). 

Spam is a big prob for Dolphin, one way round this could be to have an admin feature to overwrite default main URLs with custom ones... such as login, register, forgot password etc... same for main modules that are getting targeted. 

I use a module for this on WP and it works great. all the tell tale signs of a WP site no longer show...

Would be good to have something like this for D, although could be a problem for 3rd party modules that build on the default modules instead of creating new ones...

 This is an excellent idea; but of course the market, I'm not going there.

 Rewriting the urls can't be done without editing .htaccess. So, i don't think it will be kinda practical module

 even more reasons...