Boonex website runs slow.

Hi,

I am hoping that someone might be able to help me, i have built my website up not and have over 1300 members but i seem to be having trouble with my web hosts , if i get more than 8 people log in at the same time it seems to run really slow, i personally think its a problem with my web host but they say its a problem with Boonex software. I have access to my cpanel and when it runs really slow it seems to be connected to the CPU usage, its in the red (100%).

Could someone please shed some light on this so i can go back to them with a reason and say im not happy!

Many thanks

Russell

you already know, if you cpanel shows your CPU @ 100% then it's going to be slow. Shared hosting is not friendly for live sites. Upgrade to something better.

Aparently i have a designated server! any suggestions if i have to upgrade?

It is not so much shared hosting, it is shared hosting where they set up a huge number of clients on the same box.

There are those that will set you up with a "shared host" arrangement if you are not up to operating your own server where they limit the number of clients on the box so that you can get decent performance.

 
What are the specs of your dedicated server?

A cpanel, 1CPU and 1GB of memory, what else do you need to know?

Is that a dedicated server with just you on it, or is that a VPS?

Zarconia.Net for a better Dedicated at a great price.

 Thanks Syclops for the recommendation.

xxRussellxx, hit us up if you need.

 Thats the reason. The server specs are pretty bad for anything but a testing box.

Its a VPS server

Can someone give me some advice on webspace then? whats the best for Boonex software, what sort of specs i should be looking at, prices?

At the moment mine seems to struggle when more than 10 people log in at the same time! my webspace guys are telling me its a boonex issues, dodgy script!

Russell

Well i think your host is lying to you. Or has never run dolphin. I have never been able to get a dolphin site to run quickly with that many users online on a single cpu machine with only a gig of memory. Hell, the os alone needs that 1 gig of memory.

Dual cpu, 2 gig of memory minimum. 4 gig of memory would be better.

Switch to Zarconia. Hosting by someone that actually runs dolphin.

Yes, and probably way too many other virtual servers on the same box.

Something with at least a quad core and 4 gigs of ram and a 1 terabyte drive.  500 gigs for web space 500 gigs for backup should get you going for a little while.  

If your serious about your site then something with 8 cores and 16 gigs of ram would be better for you.

I would set 4 gigs for mysql usage, 4 gigs for web and os usage, and the other 8 gigs for caching options.

Raid; so that if a drive crashes, your site doesn't.

yes it will, at least for a little while until you can rebuild the raid array and 99.9% of users don't have that on site option of doing that so you still have to wait for the data center to do it. 

Thanks for your help, just so i know what should i expect to pay for Dual cpu, 2 gig of memory on an annual basis?

Russell

 Zarcon Hosting offers 2 Dual-Core with 4gig of memory @ $49 per month or $588 annually

http://www.boonex.com/m/zarconia-web-hosting-2012-10-24

I have sent them a message, many thanks for everyones help!

 That is a lot of money... in two years you pay almost $1200. For this huge amount you can buy yourself a decet machine and setup your own web server.

What do u guys think or recommend about uplink speed? I know, "the more the merrier" but what are your experiences?

My internet speed is 10/4 Mbps

Regards,

Mayki

btw:

for all those gigs of RAM and processing power...., I'm running live D7.1 site on Lenovo's Nettop IdeaCentre Q150 but of course on Linux.....; I know that more powerful machine is better, but for the time being....

 Actually, that is not a lot of money for a dedicated server (not VPS).

Although its not completely impossible to run your 'own server' from your house, you will never be able to run a active site with sufficient results. My internet is 35MB/7MB (3x faster than yours) and I wouldn't even think about running a live site from my home. For testing sure, but not a live site.

 Zarcon is right, I have been running a home server since my first days here. My problems are power failures from storms, which here in Florida can be intense at times. (and cable company working on equipment/servers at night)

I run two RMS servers here at home now only, not "production" sites anymore, did try it in the beginning but gave up. lol

I'm curious where you running your server at?

 Zarcon, can you explain that statemant??

Why not? I'am running it right now.

And after saving money instead paying for VPS I will be abel to aford myself a decent computer....; not to mention the hdd space limitations on every hosting plans... My site is currently aprox 70GB...., how much would that space usage cost me??

So I can not agree with you. btw., I'm running another website on same Nettop... :) along with Dolphin.

free -m:       

     total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached

Mem:          2013       1757        255          0        114        914

-/+ buffers/cache:        728       1284

Swap:          886         55        830

ps -C lighttpd -o rss= | awk '{s+=$1}END{print s/1024}' :

62.8516

Got the idea??

About your speed, the importat part is uplink speed more then your 35M of download....., and 7M is not so fast....??

My download speed is 10M which is enough for decent files uploads from my members....

So dear Zarcon, please enlighten me why I "will never be able to run a active site with sufficient results" ?

@newton27:

Have u heard for UPS?? That would solve your power problems.

In 10 years time (since I first start to run my own home located server (home is in Slovenia - a lot of lighting storms during summer time) it was down for maybe 4 times for approx. 10 minutes. 8 years at same ISP - one outage for aprox. 5min.

Can this be compared to expensive hosting provider??

I think it can.

 still saving money while other pays and pays and never own it

Mayki

 Have those for home server, modem, routers and hubs...but those don't last long except to run for while and safely shutdown.

problem> major equals tree across line taking the cable out. Has only happened once for hours after about eight years with same provider as well; I only ran that for while until I created more domains and had to move.

This is the server from home, duvallocals.info, just a cam site..

 Dear Mayki,

First, I never said it was 'impossible', my statement said it wasn't practical to do so. Your computer may run Dolphin at speeds that are very reasonable for you. But for your members, your residential internet speed from your ISP will cause more latency in response times than if you were in a datacenter that was more optimized and with a faster backbone to the internet.

Dolphin has a high resource when it comes to PHP, RMS (if using), and consistent SQL queries. When your members try to upload content to your home server, your 10MB download will have nothing to do with it. When running tests on your own server, that is in your house, of course the response times will good. You are communicating directly through it. When you add in your upload speeds, network routing from your ISP, etc. your members may see a slower response.

If that is good enough for your members, then by all means. Run your own webserver.

 why not upgrading yours instead of moving somewhere else. I wanna be my own boss if you feel me....

And I'm running two domains and one subdomain....

 Like I said, the home server now is running 7.0.9 RMS and new version for 7.1

the site loads super fast.. but I also run about ten other domains a few which have become popular, the reason to my move to a cloud VPS, that is the server for my have to be online sites.. lol

 mine does not need upgrading...

System hostname	duvallocals.info (127.0.1.1)
Operating system	Ubuntu Linux 12.04
Webmin version	1.620
Time on system	Mon Feb 25 17:45:26 2013
Kernel and CPU	Linux 3.2.0-38-generic-pae on i686
Processor information	Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz, 4 cores
System uptime	1 days, 16 hours, 34 minutes
Running processes	119
CPU load averages	0.33 (1 min) 0.23 (5 mins) 0.14 (15 mins)
CPU usage	0% user, 0% kernel, 0% IO, 100% idle
Real memory	2.95 GB total, 1.01 GB used
Virtual memory	3 GB total, 3.32 MB used
Local disk space	97.01 GB total, 40.24 GB used
Package updates	All installed packages are up to date

 My dear Zarcon. When I'm testing I can test it from my home on diffrent IP, ok. I happend to have two IP addresses so when I do the testing it is not localy.

I agree that datacenters and so on are better but I test my site from diffrent location as well and it is runing ok. Maybe it is not the fastest one but it is the only one in my coutry for that purpose....

Slovenia has a population of 2 million and having 1200 registred members is quite ok....

We can go on and on about this and it will be unproductive..., so let's call it a wrap since it is almost midnight here in Slovenia

and I have to go to work in the morning (I will -as I do evry day - test my site from there  )

Thanks for nice opinions fighting.

@newton27: great.

Mayki

 Back to the topic at hand...

 If that is what you have to work with then I suggest you start here and do all these suggested tune up's to php and MySQL

http://www.boonex.com/n/500_Speed_Improvement_of_Dolphin_

Many thanks for everyones input and help, didn't mean to cause an argument!

One thing no one mentioned here, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.. isn't it against most home internet providers TOS to run a website from your house? Do you guys have business accounts or do not all providers have that clause?

 Shh, we are debating.. lol

 Yes it is...