Beta Beta Beta

I can NOT believe how many beta's have been released. This is crazy, I have never seen a software having so many beta versions. Yeah I know they need to get it right, but come on now, this is really silly. I guess my estimate of the RC release in Dec will come true. WOW, that's all i got to say.

This is nothing for something as big as this change and they have done well with the amount of developers they have (and QAers they have ). They are not Microsoft/Oracle/SAP etc.. and they really rely on us to help them out with the QA process, as they do not have 100s of programmers/testers/QAers.

It is if you have been waiting for 2 years to get a website up and running smoothly. Yes I could use the older version, but then they tease us with all the extras in D7 and so you wait, and wait, and wait. I guess if you have a job this is no problem for you to keep paying hosting, but I lost my job and have been trying to get this site up to help with household bills.

This for some silly reason this reminds me of Windows Vista. Microsoft gave us a date of release, and then delays,delays,delays.

They went way beyond their predicted time frame, and if i remember correctly, they cut out some planed features to get it out the door.

Turned out to be a big flop just like Windows ME was. I hate Vista with a passion and refuse to run it.

Anyhoo. I hope D7 does not turn out to be a flop, but i also agree. The number of betas are normal for a product of this size. The only difference between this and other products such as windows is the end user does not get to play with most of the microsoft betas. So you kinda don't notice it as much.

Also as a side note. I also will be out of work soon. Been writing dolphin mods to try and make a little but i have never in the past had any luck making money with a website although i have tried many times in the past.

Well my website is different from all the others here, I think I am the only Paranormal site at least. And I can make money on my site to help pay for the cost of running the site and pay some home bills as well, but not if I loose my customers. For now it is slow as my site is a test site,my goal is to offer a site for Members and  Psychics and Mediums..ect to be able to help make their home a little extra cash as well. Now don't get me wrong, I do not believe I will get rich..lol But if I have no income, I can not provide a place for others like me to make a little of money also. Economy sucks right now and every penny helps support our familes. Also I want to be able to provide a FREE website for all as well. To be able to help others in return.

LightWolf - the "teasers" were devastating to many small businesses here.  They actually started more than a year ago with messages hinting that the new version was imminent.   Many, many people here put their sites on hold - why buildout and modify a site if there is going to be a non compatible major new version right around the corner?   Had Boonex not released those licenses to their existing member base, I would actually consider that they had done some business damage by being misleading.   As for your situation now, I doubt if you want to build a 6.1. site.  If you have gotten started on DB3 I would do a full structure and content backup, and also a structure backup of major tables.  Then, when you install DB4, I would immediately do a "full structure and content" backup before you do anything else.   Then try a "restore" from your DB3 backup.  If that doesn't work, then revert to the DB4 backup file, and try restores, one at a time, from your DB3 backup tables, test, and if it works do another full structure and content backup.  If one doesn't work, then revert to the previous version and go from there.  In theory this should work, but I haven't tried it yet.   I guessing the betas are going to be every few weeks for a while - this would at least help you get going.

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Rob

If you're a Psychic, can't you tell us when the d7 release date will be? :)

Oh my..now isn't that a new response..ughhh. I have not used D7 for a site, just testing and playing. My D6 has been up for awhile now with over 100 members testing it and using it for now.

beta and beta and beta and beta

u never going to have a big social network with alot of members u have to start , start , start thank's to many beta

dolphin is getting me crazy

I love this post, it's such a great example of the vast difference between individuals that we have utilizing the Dolphin platforms.  Let's take a look at this again.

Within the thread we have caltrade, who's done an awesome job of modifying Dolphin to serve a an enduser audience within the realm of Professional Networking.  If I'm correct, he actually has his sites up and running in one form or another.  He's not depending on his sites to even cover their own costs right now, recognizing that will be a ways down the road.

Next up we have Deano92964, who has learned the Dolphin script in and out, begun creating a sensible means of generating income from it via Dolphin modifications that the community has vocalized a desire for.  I have no doubt Deano's mods will be both stable and usable in a production environment type site. 

We can follow this up with Lightwolf, who is coming in stating she is awaiting, like many others, the much anticipated final release of D7 so she can create a site to generate enough income to not only cover server fees and so on, but also subsidize her household. 

So what is the reality of the situation in regards to Dolphin, version 6 or 7 and when to open a site?  In the end, you need to work with the software that you have and learn to develop it into what you want it to be.  I love it when individuals come in claiming they have the next big thing to hit the net and all they need is just the right software to make it happen.  Then, we trip across a Dolphin site that is covering it's bills and generating a nice little amount of positive cashflow and that site appears to be a stripped to the bones type site. 

My point is, it doesn't matter what your idea is, it's all in how you implement it.  If your claiming your waiting on D7 before you launch your site, then your just playing games and coming up with excuses.  I have seen way to many D6 sites out there that are fully functional and generating small amounts of revenue to know you don't have to have D7 to make a go of it.  But remember, the owners of these sites know what it takes to SEO a site, get it on the list in the proper position and spend their time making it happen. 

So, quit making excuses and work with what you have or sit on the sidelines and watch those who are making do with what they have make it happen.  By advertising your end goal on here, you have just opened the door for anyone to steal your idea, implement it today with a tricked out D6 site and make you look like the copycat.  No, I have no interest myself in the paranormal, but you did just drop your marketing plan out for the world to see.

"I love it when individuals come in claiming they have the next big thing to hit the net and all they need is just the right software to make it happen."

Hmmm I never said that, not sure where you got this from. You can state your opinion all you like as it is your right, just like I have my own right. I did not come into your post and start trashing your statement...now did I?

And I do not care if others use my ideas, I am not wanting to become rich from my ideas...lol And yes it would be nice to have my site take care of itself expense wise and maybe help me pay my internet bill to keep me online. But after spending money and time on D6 as far as hosting and mods (not hooked up now) what D7 has to offer will help me with my goals.

Yes part is my fault that I may loose some members as I relayed to them what I was told on here in blogs about what was coming and when to expect it. I only told them what unoboonex was telling us. Now if you wanted to join a site with the option to be able to make a few extra bucks with your website, wouldn't it make you wonder if all you got was promises it was coming for months and months?

Now trash this all you want, or go bug someone else's post.

LightWolf i think is better to have many Betas because i dont think you want a final version that is a crap... so guys from me.. to how many betas you want and make this CMS rule the planet :)

 Nobody was trashing your post LightWolf, that's not what I was saying at all.  And to make it a specific quote, you said that you think you have the only paranormal site, and that it is different from all other sites.  Now, you said that your site has 100 members approximately.  So we can then safely assume this site is not yours:

http://liveparanormal.com/browse.php

It has 837 Members when I did a quick google for Paranormal Ray Chat, which appears to be a pretty good rendition of a fairly base Dolphin site, with a few mods added to it that is doing great.  This site just proves the point that you can work with the software that you have and create a successful site, it does not always need to have all the bells and whistles to get people to join.  I was simply suggesting work with what you have and build it up.  In time D7 will be released and then you can look at building a D7 site and transferring your members to that site via a DB transfer or the profiles and such.  I'm pretty sure Boonex isn't going to leave us all in a lurch on that item, it's just not an item that the details of which are being released to us yet due to the fact that D7 is not in it's final stable production version yet. 

If you want your site to quit spending money and start generating a little then you need to go ahead with what you have, otherwise sit on the sidelines and wait for D7, but by then the hype will be that D8 is coming out.  Are you going to hold off on your project until D8 since it's supposed to be better?  Perhaps D9 will also do windows, maybe we should all wait for that option.

True, best not to advertise you ideas on here or anywhere else dolphin related. I do not with my websites in case someone familiar with dolphin just clones the idea. If I need to post an issue and I need to show it some one on a webhost, I recreate it on a bare dolphin system, on a different development URL and preferably not on the same IP. Paranoid eh? The site is now self supporting, with a bit of banner advertising and has over 500 members. I am still trying to figure out a way of making money out of the members. Oh well... Think, think, think...

But I did a search in the same way you did mydatery i.e. xxxxxx, ray, chat. Yup there is some one with the same idea as me. Although their website has gone live 1 year later than mine, this last june, and they have only 3 members.

i agree with lighwolf, i also bought a domain, webspace, rms etc and been waiting and waiting.

(Ignoring the stupid comments about psychics and it showing peoples ignorance on the subject) i have to agree with the comments of MD. There really is no point waiting for D7 for a spiritual site. Is it just me, or has 7 got more of a dating feel than the 6.... I for one dont much like that age slider thingy looking at it from the point of view of a non-dating, finding matches point of view.

Actually looking at both D6 and D7, D6 looks a better prospect for a spiritual site, D7 is great, course it is, but ive shown it a few members of my spiritual community forum and they just dont like it (too much going on for their taste), course they might not be a computer savvy as your members lightwolf, so that comment doesnt mean much. Ive had a look at your site some time back and i thought it was great, so im suprised you are just hanging about waiting for D7 release as you do have a perfectly good site and concept, with what you already have (IMHO)

Every script has his own possibiltys, and its the webdesigner who's fantasy makes the result!
I think that D6 has more designing possibilty's then D7. And yes I also don't like dating elements like age sliders and sex searching. But all these elements can be removed or dissabled. 


So use your own fantasy and knowledge to make what you want. Its not version related.

Success.

Isnt Poseidon due to be released in early part of next year? That is what i dont understand if poseidon is due to be the next "dolphin" . Why even bother making a dolphin 7 that will be relased towards the end of the year?  Especially if it isnt released till around december, and poseidon is released in april or somewhere around there.  It just seems it would have made more sense to just improve on dolphin 6 . And leave the major overhaul for poseidon imo. Or is this just a way to get more money? If you have to pay for a poseidon license 3 months after dolphin 7 is finally released.

Imo i do like the way dolphin 7 looks, it has a more of a web 2.0 feel to it. Looks alot more updated. But with some good customization you can make dolphin 6.16 look just as good, especially from what i have seen from some others. So i agree dont wait for dolphin 7, just go ahead and try to work with what you got.  And whenever dolphin 7 does get released, if you deside to move to dolphin 7 then go ahead. Anyway good luck to everyone trying to make a dollar with there site, I hope everything works out for everyone.