Anybody around here speak Dutch?

I am working on an old dart league management script that appears to have been abandoned by the original author about 6 years ago.  It uses language keys, and a language file for some of the text strings, but not all of them.  Translating the language file and a lot of the strings was tedious, but reasonably straightforward.   First I ran the Dutch language string through a translator to get the literal translation.... then reworded it so that is was grammatically correct.

There are a few remain strings used in table headers, that I just can make any sense of.  They appear in a table header of individual player statistics in a dart league.

Position Player ID Name team Won Games Played. Remaining Games legs voor legs tegen saldo perc
1 755 unknown unknown Goodfellas 22 24 0 66 -22 44 91.67%

The terms that I can't figure out are 'legs voor' and 'legs tegen'.  voor = for  tegen = against   saldo = remainder  

perc= percentage, and is the number of game won divided by the number of games played.  Even though I've played a lot of darts, I don't understand what the author meant by ('legs' for)    .... and (legs 'against)    There is no Dutch word 'legs', so maybe it's english .... if so, the literal english translations are 'legs for' and 'legs against'  and saldo is 'legs voor' reduced by 'legs tegen'.  I can't make sense of it, but maybe some Dutch guy that plays darts in a league understands it.

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Quote · 18 Jul 2010

Hi Houstonlively

 

Indead its a english word ""legs""

It just means how many legs you won and how many you lost.

 

Any dutch questions just shoot !

Quote · 18 Jul 2010

RE:

Hi Houstonlively

Indead its a english word ""legs""

It just means how many legs you won and how many you lost.

Any dutch questions just shoot !

Trouble is.. to me, 'legs' is something you use to walk with.  I can't figure out how the term is used in the context of a dart league.  In a dart league, I understand terms like 'game' and 'round' ...... but not 'legs'.

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Quote · 18 Jul 2010

Apparently, it means "games."

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Quote · 18 Jul 2010

Yes i would have to agree.  Its like he won 5 of 7 legs of the great race..  I guess something like the best out 3 wins type of thing.

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Quote · 18 Jul 2010

RE:

Apparently, it means "games."

No.  It doesn't.

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Quote · 18 Jul 2010

RE:

Apparently, it means "games."

No.  It doesn't.

The Internet lied to me. Alternatively, this also came up, which I have no idea means:

When a player has got his score from 501, all the way to 0, finishing on a double or the bull.

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Quote · 18 Jul 2010

I've played a lot of darts, but not in a league.  Maybe I just need to brush up on my dart league terminology.

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Quote · 18 Jul 2010

I speak Dutch but legs voor & legs tegen is a riddle to me. I think the developer chose a wrong word for what he wanted to explain. Legs is indead English.


From Wikipedia

A set in darts consists of a sequence of legs (games) played, ending when the count of legs won meets certain criteria. Throwing first is considered an advantage in a leg, so players alternate who throws first in each leg during the set.

Generally, a set will consist of the best of five legs (first player to win three) - although there are some exceptions. In the Winmau World Masters and non-televised PDPA Players Championships, a set is the best of three legs (first to two).

Usually, if a match goes to the final set - a "tiebreaker" rule comes into play and players must win by two clear legs unless the match reaches 5-5 in the final set when a sudden-death deciding leg is played. The decision on which type of set is down to the organisers of each tournament - although both versions of the World Championship (PDC World Darts Championship and BDO World Darts Championship) use five legs per set and the "tiebreaker" rule in the final set.

Quote · 18 Jul 2010

I think its just a matter of adjusting the terminology that is used from one country to another.  Translation is more difficult than it seems.  You can translate the phrases and adjust the grammar, but adjusting the terminology used in different countries is the hard part.   I think instead of using 'Games' and 'Legs", I should be using 'Matches' and 'Games' where a match consists of multiple games.  A round would be all matches played.  I don't think the term 'leg' is used in dart terminology in the US. 

When I actually figure out how to add the administrator to this dart league script, I'll have a better idea.

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Quote · 18 Jul 2010

The problem in dutch language is, that we use a lot of english words without even knowing what they mean. Terminology in sports is most of the time adapted from the english language f.e. "pool' biljart, corner (football), off-side (football), K.O. (boxing), etc. Sometimes we have dutch words for them, but they just sound stupid :-)))))

Quote · 18 Aug 2010

There are many words we can't translate it to Englisch from Dutch or otherwise.   :)

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Quote · 18 Aug 2010
 
 
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