Finish What We Started or Move On
Yesterday post about Dolphin 8 brought up some comments suggesting that we should "finish what we started first". I believe that there's a dose of confusion that needs to be cleared...
Dolphin 8 is not a 100% new product
We have been working on Dolphin 7.1 and realised that it is getting so good and can potentially be changed a little more to finally form an awesome product. One that would comfortably compete with something like Drupal in technical flexibility and remain as friendly as Dolphin should be. And so, we decided to discontinue our work on Trident, bring its ideas to Dolphin and call it Dolphin 8. This project is an evolution of current system and a continuation of ongoing work. Dolphin 8 is finishing of what we started. And it is a start of something new at the same time.
We will be releasing service updates
Despite ongoing Dolphin 8 development we will be releasing 7.0.7 very soon. Service updates that fix urgent bugs and security issues will continue to be released at least until a stable release of Dolphin 8 and likely for some time afterwards.
Three Methods of House Upgrade
There are basically three main ways you can approach your house renovation or update...
1. Build a new house. If you can afford this and if your house really sucks, you might just build a new one and demolish or sell your existing house. We figured that this is not the case with Dolphin. Current version of Dolphin is a highly valuable combination of software and surrounding ecosystem. More importantly lots of people use it already and need an effective upgrade path.
2. Fix broken bits. Another way is to fix things that get broken and just leave everything else as is. You know, just glue back those teared pieces of wallpaper and change the misbehaving light-switches. It's a good way, until most of your house becomes dated and maintenance becomes too tedious a task. We did this with Dolphin for many years now and even more so with Dolphin 7. We will continue doing this for a while. But hey, life's too short to live it one same old house!
3. Renovate. And finally, if you like your house, but want to refresh it, want to look modern and want to wow your friends - you renovate. If done well you could end up on the same nice spot, but with new house. Just keep everything that's good about it and get rid of anything that's not top-notch. With any luck it could save you time and money while leading to a great result. This is Dolphin 8 project for ya! One big renovation with a beautiful plan on hands.
So cheer up boys and girls! It's all good and no snag, really. Just enjoy the process and our old dear house will shine as new before you know it.
The new Dolphin solution is powered by UNA Community Management System.
And please tell me that isn't the new logo for WebHome.
Bugs have been reported about 7.0.0.6 and just want them fixed before moving on to another version.
It's explained well using a house as a term for dolphin and it's renos.
So if i understand this correct, Dolphin 8 will be a renovated version of Dolphin?
New modules = New walls, New template = New paint etc.
I like the fact that discussions on future major releases take effect as it realy gets hopes up see more
Continue what you started or move on?
thats worrisome to say the least. you mention here that Dophin 8 is not new, that it is all of what 7.1 was supposed to become. then you further state in your announcement that you have scapped Dolphin 7.1, you have scrapped Trident.
my answer short and sweet is that you are not dealing with a house here. you are talking about an evolving system, thus this requires updates and upgrades, as well as new releases. but you cannot see more
The only entrance is through a doggie door, because the hinges were the wrong size, and instead of getting the correct hinges, you nailed the door shut to the frame, and cut in a doggie door.
Ok great we are in now.
Whoa what the heck, the floors were started but they ran out of material in the center of the foyer, so now you have to beam walk, see more
No choice but to wait and see, but bet I'm going to get broken again and again and again...
Those phrases scare me, just like "Honest you can trust me"....I see danger ahead.
this was all accepted, and many moved forward, thinking we were on the path to consistent updates and upgrades with some forward look to something stable and 100% functional?
we have yet to see 100% functional.
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when you announced Trident | Dolphin 8 |
that it would be released soon.
when can we expect an upgrade and a list of bugs that will be updated would be nice as well. i have been waiting nearly a year for an update on the polls module.
the voting tracking was reported as not functioning. slated for 7.1, now that 7.1 see more
so hopefully with the idea of Dolphin 8, there will be a different outlook all the way around, starting with documentation.
We don't have a large staff (Between 3-5 people), but we take the time to test things thoroughly. So you *DON'T* have to have Microsoft's see more
Seriously, Andrew, please listen to people here. First understand that the names you call things: "Dolphin 8", "Trident", "Shark", "The Next Big Thing" - whatever, no longer have much meaning to us here - we just want out sites to work and keep getting better.
Wasn't it a few months ago that you came up with the list of features and bug fixes you see more
I have a simple analogy; two determined young men, one vocal, one quiet. Both have ambitions of climbing the highest and toughest mountain peaks. Both camp at the base; one keeps mouthing off; I will climb this mountain one day, one day I will see more
Dolphin 5 unfinished
Dolphin 6 unfinished
Dolphin 7 unfinished
you see the pattern, the pattern has to be broken.
D8 is a next version and allow only premium member can see or download.. then you must point new Dolphin 8 is not longer to be Open source .. because the point of your product to sale not for community anymore. see more
Screw it. Somebody send me an email when this stuff works,
You are echoing some of what has been said countless times before. It hasn't happened up until now and it never will. Everyone will continue to get "huge" announcements about what's to come instead. It's how it's always worked - sadly.
I *have* been here since 5x - though I didn't become actively involved until 6. There is no difference between what was happening/being promised then - vs now. Well..... the name changes, the look changes, but it's all the same spiel.
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