We've launched WebHome.org a few days ago, and comments from Unity members, for the most part, mean that the whole thing is just not clear enough. So, I'll try to clarify a few points...
1) "distract attention away from Dolphin/Trident"
For many years now, we have always been working on Dolphin and "something else" during the day. Trying different things, trying to innovate, learn and change the world. Spending entire day just on Dolphin would have burnt out all the motivation long time ago. We will keep trying different things, no matter what.
Dolphin is a platform and even if it gets super-perfect, it would still be a platform, and if eventually it becomes irrelevant because of market change, nothing would save it. With WebHome, we are trying to look into the future and work towards keeping Internet free. WebHome is one of the most important parts of Dolphin project success - it's a motivation, a way to keep users coming to Dolphin sites and a way to prevent entire SN market from being swallowed by 3-4 companies.
2) "Most people aren't going to purchase a domain. They just won't."
Right. WebHome is not about domain. The idea is to connect ANY social profile as a webhome, be it a Facebook profile, a hosted blog, or your own site. You just choose one webhome for yourself and off you go. We expect companies offering easy ways to build webhomes, like for example, Tumblr offers weblog creation service.
I could be using the following as my webhome:
http://www.andrewboon.com
http://www.aboonhome.com (for example)
http://www.bazooka.com (if I have to)
http://www.boonex.com
http://www.facebook.com/boonandrew
http://www.twitter.com/boonex
http://boon.webhomes.com/
http://boon.we-host-webhomes.com/
etc.
3) "Using a real name is going be a problem with a lot of people. They won't do it."
That's the beauty of it. Nobody can possibly impose any rules on your choice of webhome URL or username. You can use anything you want, your name, somebody else's name, or a nickname, whatever. Just like in real life, you're free to name yourself as you please when you meet new people. Nobody is policing you.
4) "Many, many people have the same name - meaning the domain won't be available."
johnsmithwebhome.com
smith-home.com
johnnysm.name
jsmontheweb.net
mike.me.com
matt.ning.com
profiles.google.com/sam
etc.
5) "Even if this were to start to take off, every company on the planet is going to copy it and dilute the market. This is problem with social networking to a large extent. Making it open source will just give them a head start."
There's no point for different companies to start it. There may and will only be one, since it's not a company or a project or a software, it's like a phenomenon, it's either there or not. Like, say, p2p file-sharing - we've just agreed to the name "torrents" and to some rules to identify them. Now, we can use any software, any servers, etc. it's unstoppable.
6) "Permission Problem of Webhome.org forum and OpenID login there."
Permissions didn't allow posting to "Announcements". Fixed now. As for OpenID, we've installed Vanilla Forum, that happens to have no OpenID plugin. We'll do something about it shortly.
7) "you do not even own all of the TLD's - and specifically the most important one"
We only need one and .org is fine.
8) "By doing this, isn't Boonex concerned that this might paint a bullseye on itself (retaliation from the big social networking sites to try to take down Boonex/Dolphin...... because in a way, this is like launching an attack on them)?"
Large networks will have to understand the need for uniting. Friendster and Myspace are about to die because ANY site is fashionable only for a while, then the crowd moves-on. Facebook will go out as well, eventually. Internet is an oligopoly now - FB, Twitter, eBay, Google, Apple, Amazon,etc. The future of the Internet is in freedom and peer-2-peer sharing. Artists will sell their music from their sites, writers will publish their books on their sites, and our social network profiles will be ours.
9) "if you want this to catch on, you'll have to come up with a better presentation than a website called webhome.org that is nothing more than a few wordpress blogs and a few Wordpress social plugins."
Agreed. We only have prototypes now and need help to make sure we're doing a right thing.
10) "$200,000, is the annual salary for a half decent developer - I suggest you hire one and use them to fix Dolphin. How much has been budgeted for producing your actual software --- Dolphin 7 (in progress), and the evidently frozen Trident platform? With $200.000, you could have a team of code monkeys chipping away at $20/hour for a grand total of *ten thousand working hours*. You could even get your next-generation Trident plaftorm for the budget if you wanted."
We spend about 0.5mil annually on Dolphin and we already hire enough developers. Adding more doesn't help at all. We used to have over 20 Dolphin-only developers and that's when the worst things happened. We're budgeting in our own savings money into a project that we believe in and that will help Dolphin stay relevant.
11) "there are too many hurdles for people to jump in order to use it."
Yes, it's now for techs only, because it's not ready. Companies will wrap it into a more conceivable form in the future and we'll make sure it can be done.
12) "Boonex won't care to work on the improvement of Market at Unity, but is wasting time in resources in such projects."
We are working on Market at Unity, but changes are not evident. There're some issues and upcoming improvements but it's not always possible to tell what exactly should be done to actually solve problems. Specific suggestions are welcome. Right now we're preparing a new Jobs section and improved "reputation-based" rankings, and a better search.
13) "BoonEx can do whatever will motivate them to finish Dolphin. This is one of them."
Well said. WebHome launch has given the biggest boost in Dolphin development activity we ever had. More details on that coming soon.
14) "Personally I do not think this is a good idea and something boonex should not invest in. The concept is the same as openID, with more information stored about you by webhome.org (if I'm right). Having all this information stored by this organization takes a lot of responsibility and seen the track record of boonex so far, I do not believe they are capable of being trusted with all that information."
Webhome.org doesn't store any information at all. Everything is stored on your computer. Once it takes off we may shut down webhome.org, smile and enjoy the freedom. It's all peer-2-peer without lock to any software.
<<< Im glad your seeing it as i am.
I know how it is to get burnt out see more
We know exactly what's our most valuable asset and what we should do. I would appreciate your friendly reminders, but they are too many.
I believe that social networking is going to go into a more private phase where it's a family, company, or organization site more than anything. WebHome may fit into that concept - but it's a concept that I admit I don't think I fully understand.
I do know that all of best tools in the world won't help Dophin site developers unless we get a script that functions properly. I think most agree that see more
Now that would be pretty cool to have.... a "dolphin connect module" if you will....
If you were absolutely sure that there is no truth my comments then they would be easy to refute - but instead you delete them.
Did I touch a nerve?
There was nothing rude in what i said - simply a contrary opinions to yours.
Obviously I am not allowed to have such an opinion
/DM
We invest time and money in D7 - and -
D7 is still a beta version - unusable for a commercial site -
you do things in reverse - D7 finish and you will surely support of everyone
if there must be a revolution - the revolution is the dolphin community - for D7 - without bugs and without function strange
@ Andrew Boon: So, does this mean a person only visits webhome.org to update their profile so they don't have to visit other sites to do see more
Wow this just tells me that Boonex plans to abandon the platform all together for this new platform. I'm sorry but wasn't Trident (D8) supposed to keep on top of the latest web tech to keep Dolphin relevant. Sounds like Trident is all but dead (and where is the premium trident blogs we were promised?) and see more
@Mauricecano: I've also been searching for the *Access to Trident Blog* that I should have received when I upgraded my account to premium.
"The idea is to connect ANY social profile as a webhome" vs. "Everything is stored on your computer"
What happens when I'm not online? How is my online presence preserved, since it's all peer-2-peer? Is my information still stored on servers/SN's supporting webhome? Should be, since my facebook account could be my webhome. This means I still visit facebook. And yes, maybe its connected to other networks as well, but as long as I do not create see more
i introduced my website to one of my premium customer and asked him to join my site
he is a PRO and News Agent for South Indian Cinemas who has the first hand news in many hot topics
so i asked him to join my site and he questioned me back...
1.how do i access with my mobile?
[speechless]
2.how do i post my news to all networks from your website?
[speechless]
3.how do i chat with my colleagues through mobile no matter whether hes registered in my site or not?
[speechless]
4.do see more
1) To get the bugs out of Dolphin so people will be able to build their sites without problems
2) Make a good "how to" manual and get it in the hands of people who need it
( see http://www.boonex.com/unity/blog/entry/Petiton_To_Get_Boonex_To_Implement_TikiWiki_on_Boonex_com )
....then and only then should you look to put money outside of Dolphin. Webhome is a good idea but you are not ready for it until the other things are done first. see more
and they can post their requirement and buy the product from modders and release a good and healthy D7 with somany innovative features like modzzz, spywall, templates etc...
If Boonex were to outsource some development to the community, it'd be interesting to see if the software got rolling a bit better...
Dolphin 7 is, or at least was said to be, a transitional bridge between D6 and "the next big thing". As such, depending on how the stars are aligned at any given time, it may have the best or the worst of both worlds, or a bit of both. It reminds me of Windows Vista in some sort of eerie way, somewhere in the limbo zone between D6 (XP) and D8 (W7). Let's hope it gets there sooner than later.
This comment from the owner of Dolphin would probably be the last thing Dolphin customers like to hear. We have all waited for almost a year for D7 and now when we are ready to launch our sites into the market, we receive this comment from the unoboonex.
Secondly, i agree that you need to look into different verticals see more
I have made a grand total of $0.00 using Dolphin software and I started with Dolphin 5. Had I had to do it all over I would have studied PHP and designed my own site.
I was using PHPFOX but I do not like their new version 2.x at all. After leasing and spending several thousand dollars over a few year period I have nothing to show. After leasing all those years see more
Amazon and Apple will survive. Google keeps raking in billions because they have purchased such massive amounts of computing horsepower that it's astonishing. Some of my sites are indexed in a staggering 20 minutes lafter new contact is posted. That is fast. Only per-to-peer can match that type of computing horsepower.
"The future of the Internet is in freedom and peer-2-peer sharing."
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Peer to peer for sharing computer power is an obvious benefit over a single server serving many clients, but this would still need some central site to aggregate the data - somewhere that new users can go to connect. (think 'the pirate bay' as an already relevant example).
This will always be the case - regardless of how the future shapes communications.
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