Right now we are preparing a major Unity and BoonEx.com update. If things go right, you'll see it in a few days. So, I'd like to bring up a few issues that are relevant to this update.
First, we'll be putting up a new BoonEx Constitution/Rules document and will be enforcing stricter moderation rules using some new features, namely short-term suspension - ban for 48 hours, a week and a month. First of all we'll be targeting personal insults and spam. There will be no warnings, just bans. We'd like to create a sort of ecosystem where everyone knows that neither insults nor "opinions" about other members will be tolerated. Something like what you see at WebMasterWorld - you can't advertise anything, directly or indirectly there and you can't talk about other members in negative manner, be it your opinion or just an attack. Simple as that. For advertising we have Market.
Second, we are upgrading Forums (in Dolphin too) with many new features, including attachments, signatures, new layout, better speed, "recently updated topics" page, limited time for post editing, moving/deleting of topics, topics and posts hiding by moderators, etc. Forums will become a more important part of Unity with "no advertising". References to your site in signatures will be allowed, but not in the content of your posts, unless requested.
Note that we reserve the right to both remove content as per our discretion and NOT to remove it, too. We are trying to build a helpful resource that gives answers to BoonEx software users and gives them opportunity to improve Dolphin, learn about it and share with others. We may as well remove any content that discredits BoonEx in any way. Even if the author feels that they are giving their honest opinion and that critique is justified. It's quite simple - don't like it, tell us; if no answer, still don't like it - do something to fix it; still not there - leave. The catch is that experiences and opinions vary, for different reasons, but we don't need anybody's bitterness publicly expressed without any practical goal that may benefit BoonEx. In short, if you are absolutely convinced that BoonEx is evil and that others need to be warned - trumpet from your own hill, not from ours.
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On a more positive note, some Unity changes are designed to make all updates across the system more visible, so it should be a lot more interesting to keep track of what's going on here.
And, if you have a good, practical idea on what particular functionality of Unity could be improved or added, let us know in comments, please. Unity is not only a BoonEx Community, it is also a sandbox for solutions that will find their way into future versions of Dolphin.
hmmmm Nothing...
I really couldn't care less about any Dolphin updates because these forums are much more important to my bottom line.
Thanks for this big announcement. I had been fully expecting it. Thanks too for proving me right.
It's all good.
I won't say anything else since I don't like being censored, banned, etc.
@Andrew Boon said: "We'd like to create a sort of ecosystem where everyone knows that neither insults nor "opinions" about other members will be tolerated."
So you are going to remove the opinions area in individual accounts then too? What about opinions in the marketplace? Opinions shared via PM that the subject finds out about? There is a lot of grey area within this policy.
What you are proposing is going to cause problems because see more
Yes, you can say that, as well as anything that helps to find ways to improve and is generally toned as a sane discussion and not just rant. SO, you're cool :)
You're right about "opinions" - they do, in a sense, clash with the idea of not posting about other members, but they are a dedicated place for that, so there we can use certain rules - like in Market, where one can post only if they bought a products, etc. In Profile's "opinions" we will be looking see more
In short, common sense applies, but we'll probably be giving more detail along the way. Generally, if the topic requires the link, then yeah, by all means it may be posted.
Will deliberately useless remarks also get moderated too? Remarks such as the sarcastic one line replies often seen in response to people asking for basic help and advice? IMHO these are worse than cussing and do not give a good impression to the noobs.
PS. I hope you've sorted your search function out too.
/DM
Sarcasm is hard to spot (for some) in type writing and thus can be quiet offensive.
Here is a suggestion when it comes to Moderating:
Give us the ability to hide posts/comments in all areas on a individual level. Currently all we can do is hide the "whole" post. An example would be that someone posts a forum topic, blog, etc.. and a another member decides to go on a flaming slander war. If our only option is to hide the "whole" post, see more
With signatures - we plan a 100 symbol limit, text only, so links won't be converted. Thus, if somebody is interested they may copy-paste them, and if not - they won't scream at you.
I think Orca need also sub boards and a better moderation to.
No advertising except in signatures = more advertising than you have ever seen. Now people get to advertise on every single post they make. How is this an improvement?
Also, totally agree with HL on allowing images in there, it really messes up the continuity of threads, makes them very hard to read, it's not too bad if a standard banner size is used, but get's really annoying when people use massive / non-standard sized images. see more
I will say though that i think its a little harsh to have a no warning rule. what's wrong with just pointing the member in the right direction first with a gentle warning, that will keep the harmony, and the board flowing better than sticking the boot in from the word go, then if they do it again, then come in heavy.
this way you wont have people too scared see more
I hope the new forum will also display no. of thread views as it's a very imp. option :)
Andrew Boon said: We may as well remove any content that discredits BoonEx in any way. Even if the author feels that they are giving their honest opinion and that critique is justified.
Why? You earned it.
NEW BOONEX UNITY RULES
1. Boonex always makes the rules
2. The rules are subject to change at any time without prior notification.
3. No one can possibly know all the rules.
4. If Boonex suspects the someone knows all the rules, they must immediately change some or all of the rules.
5. Boonex is never wrong.
6. If Boonex is wrong, it is due to a misunderstanding which was a result of something the you did or said wrong.
7. You must apologize immediately see more
I just don't quite understand your rationale. Why do you post this? If you have specific objections, post them. Otherwise, it looks like you're just wasting your own time. Are you in a bad mood and just want more people to feel bad? Do you think that your witty irony would somehow improve everything or change the world?
I have to say that Boonex is making a very big mistake cencoring comments like that. I have experienced what happens when a company does this, and im thinking of HostPapa.. they do this on their support forums, vet everything, and if anything is said bad about them or their see more
See comment above - http://www.boonex.com/unity/blog/entry/Unity_Rules_Forums_Update_Moderation_#34883 see more
Now, In trying to understand this statement:
"We reserve the right to both remove content as per our discretion see more
If we lose a few of these members, the forums may end up drying out, and it will be a lot more difficult for the rest of us to get answers.
I'm not saying that the rules shouldn't apply to these members. However, I think it would be in everybody's best interest to keep these members at least partly happy (Once again, I am not one of these members. I'm one of the guys who is see more
Please Please no images in the postings to be allowed otherwise it will become a Dust bin then an very hard to find the right information .
People arent stupid.
Sure the latter is alot harder, but it earns you respect and warranted pride in a good product.
Just a thought...
Have an "announcements" forum. So that other members can critique, rate, go to and be aware of what other member are doing with their Dolphin sites. I know members but I have no idea what their sites look like. I would like to see that!
Not every link is a Market link. Some should be there just for the enjoyment of seeing other's accomplishments! Dolphin is SOCIAL after all!
Signature:
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check out my site boonex.com
But it don't matter much. Sites that allow clickable signatures can be popular because they have search engine value. But they do tend to be abused.
I really don't see the point of offering see more
And another benefit - signatures populate to all posts - something you can't do with
Signature:
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check see more
As for my other post regarding rules, perhaps if you read the original you may understand better - it is just a little light hearted see more
Example: "This guy has been harassing my teenage daughter while she is see more
exactly what i believe was done, and for that there were repercussions. there seem to be other underlying rules as well, that if you are monetarily affiliated, you can disregard the 'rules', and you can disregard and disrespect the assigned moderators. if you whine enough, you will be unsuspended, and the moderator who suspended you will be removed.
Rule(s)
1. Boonex makes the Rules
2. Rules can be adjusted depending on the payout
3. if you disagree with any of these rules see see more
Cool.
Can I also grab one for the wife and kid too. :D
/DM
If you ever get a chance Snowboarding / Skiing at Mt Hood in Oregon - it's where the outdoor shots were filmed for the Shining - it's a spooky place - lol
/DM
@andrew boon
Not black and white, more like green and yellow. I do like to grumble. It's not the worst curse. But I do have plenty to say. You could interpret it as complaining it's your beef. Plenty of people complain about boonex out there which I haven't went that far as posting a total gripe yet. No software is perfect, but dolphin 7 is not as perfect as all the hype we were fed. It's not the worst, not the best. Just mediocre that's see more
There does seem to be and always has seemed to be a privileged group here that can say more or do more without much happening. I don't really care I don't hang out here daily like those kiss you know whats. I have more important things to do with my time. If this is the place where you waste all your time that's nice. Your site could actually go somewhere if you spend a little more time eslewhere, and learning the ropes which you will not find in this community.