Understanding your customer

powerotics posted 11th of March 2008 in Community Voice. 6 comments.
What is to follow below is not meant as "taking an easy shot", but instead my objective is to provide some useful hints and tips.

I've been working with the Boonex products on our site now for several weeks. Mind you, this is a heavy traffic site with an average of around 500,000 raw hits per day - i.e. not something you can fool around with, not something you want "unreachable" and most of all you don't want to have to handle the complaints fall-out if something doesn't work, cannot be reached or is simply down. Not to mention the commercial impact - marketing and competition-wise as well as plain and simple dollar-wise.

Having said that: in my opinion the main problem with the Boonex software and company structure is that we seem to be back to classic culture clash between programmers and users. So here is my first clue: A WEBMASTER IS NOT A PROGRAMMER!!!!!!!

Webmasters these days are no longer the nerds they were ten years ago, working on ever more fancy gadgets for their (usually illusive) clientele. A 21rst century webmaster (especially if he or she manages a large site) is a high profile manager, customer oriented, practical and he or she simply does not know and does not want to know about the ins and outs of php. Neither will he or she be interested in the programmer problems. What is is needed is a straight forward yes or no and an actual answer to his or her question.

Answer to questions are NOT:
* Oh, that is on our board somewhere
* You need to write pppgggheejjigr in your nnnhhhggjjtt file (but we won't tell you you where it is, let alone where to put it)

Next clue: just because the webmaster isn't interested in your no doubt overwhelming knowledge and understanding of the Boonex products, php, mysql and flash, THAT DOES NOT MAKE HIM OR HER A FIVE YEAR OLD!

Understand this: Boonex is trying to sell community software. And actually it is a product range that is - potentially - great! (Notice the word potentially, I'll get to that in a minute).
However, what the webmaster is interested in is basically only one question: how do I compete with the big guys (MySpace, YouTube, Facebook, fill-in-the-others). Doing that requires niche marketing, having a flawless high quality operation, understanding the wants and needs of your surfers and GOOD content (which will probably be a lot more than profiles and user blogs or forumposts. What the webmaster is interested in is selling his or her website or his or her pruct(s) THROUGH the website.

Boonex would do well to find a couple of experienced webmasters (preferably the ones woth over ten years experience, since they will have seen MANY come and maybe even more go), put them in a davisory board and listen to them. Especially when it comes to product development and customer support.

A WEBMASTER DOES NOT HAVE THE TIME NOT THE INTEREST TO WADE THROUGH THROUGH ENDLESS - TO THE LAYMAN LARGELY UNREADABLE - POSTS ON BOARDS AND FORA!!!! He or she needs a fast, adequate and most importantly working solution that is easy to use, maintain and alter. To give you an example: I need to do something as simple as changing he top site title i.e. the title tag. Now there isn't anything simpler than that ...... you'd think! Well, in Boonex that's hell. Go to meta tags and you get only two options, not title and not the all important other tags (Google-related very important search engine tags for example - Google tracking - robot text - you name it).
Stylesheets are meant to make life easier and layour much more fancy WITH ONE DOCUMENT! They were not meant to have eight of them for god-knows-what-page. There were meant to replace 1990's table-oriented html lay out and they were certainly not meant to embrace tables. And no one ver said anything about putting the two, plus a form dose of php, in a blender and leave the mess to be sorted out by a webmaster.

Finally the product itself. The concept is GREAT - the execution however is not. It is unclear what does what, it requires waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to much technical assistance and sorting out, it has loads of ad ons (many of which are actually fun to have) but it is a jungle. There isn't even a normal manual for this stuff!!!

In other words ..... Boonex, puhlease! Webmasters are not five year olds. Webmasters are in a highly competitive, fast-changing and fast-growing jungle out there and they really don't need all the programming stuff, wading through fora and boards and asking the same question five times over so they can piece the answer together. They usually already have a 16 hours workday WITHOUT all that.

So, give us a handbook, give us an admin dashboard that actually works, give us one all-in basic product that can be installed without three, four or five days of labor intensive tech-support days. And give us something that is fast and easy to configure with clear choices in normal English and not in Vulcan. And something that we can mold and modify easily and quickly without having to play programmer.

Oh, did I mention that the Internet market is global, hence not everyone is from America and not everyone quickly understands the one-line US-communication style?
 
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nuccca
hey,

Nice Post, I agree with you to some extent.

I have had no prior training in PHP/SQL or any internet related programming, but over the past year, I have learned alot.
When you say that the 21st century Webmasters arent programmers, I'd say I disagree.

Some people can understand and conceptualize coding, some can't. It does not mean every Webmaster is a coder, it just means not every webmaster is the same.

I would say BoonEx has lacked when it comes to Documentation, but when you see more look at the bigger picture, and look at aeDating compared to Dolphin, then you'd know what I mean.
BoonEx offers such a powerful product for FREE, yet people constantly complain its not 'easy' enough to understand.

If you cannot learn PHP or don't want to, you just wanna make a quick buck, then join the other million lazy people who would rather beg for an answer, then simply look it up or figure it out themselves.

You can PHP, you just don't want to, and thats what it comes down to.

Lazyness, i'm not five, im eighteen and it took me awhile to get an understanding of the basics, but thats what its all about.

Adapting to your enviroment.

Now bitch and complain all you want, I'm sure others will agree and some will disagree, but today isnt tommorow, or yesterday, its TODAY!
Get with it, or get OUT!
nuccca
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You can *learn* PHP, you just don't want to, and thats what it comes down to.
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MattMolina
I didn't know ANYTHING about Boonex or being a webmaster. Can I actually call myself that? Through the forums and blogs I have been able to pick up a lot in the last couple months. So, I'm glad to learn PHP. Anyway, I'm at the point where I don't want boonex support anymore unless they are the only ones I can get the info from. If you are running a business you should definitely pay for a webmaster. Boonex isn't like packaged software. For me, it's a full time hobby :) My site is free and see more helps people. All that said, boonex support is weak if you have a bad expert. Meaning, you are always relying on the same person for answers. That's a recipe for disaster. I've been trying to get a lifetime license installed. I remember having to remind boonex after two weeks to install what I paid for two months ago. So, there are definitely support problems. Like I said, I go elsewhere now unless I need them.
pokystud
For the price of a liscence wether yearly or lifetime I would exspect better support And a good Manual or forget it. ! I will not pay for this rederic. I have been doing the internet since is was created. And Still have trouble following all the different gigo on here. There are some that do give he correct information and then some that just talk to hear themsel'ves.

Osdate is easier than this. Don't get me wrong I like the style of the products just not to lack of support.
FetishGear
When i read this post i was very surprised at the way you complain, i thought it was us British that were good at complaining :) You joined us on BDSM-life.com when we started our site back in January this year then decided you could do a better job than us and left to set your site up and we wish you luck.

We told you while you were a member of our site that to run a site using this Fantastic software took a certain amount of knowledge and experience and that you certainly needed a basic understanding see more of php, and running and maintaining a server and mail server to run it, something after reading your post you seem to have forgotten.

Web masters are still the technical brains behind any website and certainly the web masters i know are skilled in the basics at least, myself and my wife understand the basics and more and we find the software so easy to understand ourselves. This forum is so full of information and everyone here expects people installing and using this software to at least have a basic understanding of how it works and be willing to learn from others here and as long as you do, people will only be to happy to help you.

A lot of people that offer help here haven't got the time to hold someones hand and be their mother and as "Nucca" said and i quote

"Now bitch and complain all you want, I'm sure others will agree and some will disagree, but today isn't tomorrow, or yesterday, its TODAY! Get with it, or get OUT!"

If you want help here then i certainly wouldn't have posted a post such as this. All i see in the post is your assumptions of other people and not the truths that i have seen here for a start. Everyone we have spoken to on this site have only been to happy to help us, but then we understand as you say "the one-line US-communication style?" and with all your experience and knowledge that you claim you have on the Internet, then i would have expected you to have been able to understand the basics at least ;)

Welcome to the fantastic world of Open Source and we wish you well in your search for Dolphin enlightenment and with your site as you learn how to do the basics.

Good luck
FetishGear
Just for the record here is the definition of the webmaster from:

http://dictionary.zdnet.com/definition/Webmaster.html

"A person responsible for the implementation of a Web site. Webmasters must be proficient in HTML as well as one or more scripting and interface languages such as JavaScript and Perl. They may also have experience with more than one type of Web server. See Web administrator and Webmistress.
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