Request to Become a Moderator by JTadeo

jtadeo posted 25th of May 2009 in Community Voice. 37 comments.

Hi Everyone,

As per the current protocol in becoming a moderator, I would like to initiate a request for community votes to satisfy the initial requirements.

It is an important and critical time for Unity. If the activity in the past several days and weeks is any indication, it is apparent that forum moderation is a necessity.

Below are some items for your consideration:

My Approach to Moderation

I believe I can be helpful and fair as I will do my utmost to moderate trolls, spammers, disruptive members, and gift basket purveyors. I also understand that some of my decisions may not be popular with everyone, but that is not what this is about. It is about having good, honest and encouraging dialog amongst all members about relevant themes, ideas and subjects related to BoonEx and Dolphin.

I am of the mindset that members should respect one another and apologize if you are wrong. Simple rule and simple equation, but it goes a long way in gaining a level of trust and confidence with other members. If you have ever had to apologize about anything, you will find that humble pie can be good for you too! It is 100% fat free, zero calories and can help build a healthier personal character.

Relevant Experience

In terms of experience, I run www.BoonexNerd.net. If you visit the site, it has free Dolphin tutorials and regular forum posts. It is nowhere near as active as Unity but you will find my members are good to each other. I have in the past had to deal a few members but that was an exception.

In addition to my nerd site, I also run the Brampton Web Design Meetup Group and it has been successfully running since 2006. It is a by invite only site and requires validation. Many of the members I now know personally as they have been members for years. We have meetups at my home about Web and Web related topics. Ofcourse some times we just hang out. That site is mostly moderated by long standing members whom I have met and trust.

Regarding other sites, I have also had moderation privileges at sites with over 25k+ members.

In terms of relevant work, I currently program professionally with Dolphin and other OS apps using PHP, mySQL, Ajax, CSS, HTML and a bunch of other cool letters.

Along with other appointed moderators, I believe I can help in keeping the intended vision for this site.

Leave Your Ego At the Door

The subhead is a common expression I use and I absolutely believe it. Translated, we should all here to learn and help one another where and when we can. Some may know more than others, some may have better skills and some members are great for a chat and bounce off ideas with. To be sure, treat each other as you would want to be treated. It really is that simple. I think it's called the Golden Rule. Whatever you want to call it, it is a marvelous equation.

One Possible Caveat

And finally, as a moderator and member, I will make mistakes and may even disappoint you. If I do, please let me know. Outline what it was or what happened. Along with the other moderators, I do my best to listen, understand and process the information that I am given in order to review my own thinking on a matter or maybe adjust it if it is based on the rules of the forum outlined by BoonEx. In some cases, maybe the rules may need to be updated based on the circumstances or changed outright. That being said, I will not entertain issues that relate to personal convictions and ideas that are viewpoint matters. Sometimes, those types of engagements are circular and may not have an answer. For example, "What is the meaning of Life?". I am fine to have those carry on in a forum, but it has to be done in a respectful way and in the proper setting.

Please Give Me A Thumbs Up

If you believe I can be a benefit to BoonEx as a moderator, please give me a thumbs up

You can find out more about me by clicking on my avatar link - jtadeo.

Thanks for reading this far.

...sip...

 
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killerhaai
Sofar I have follow you the time I'am member of this site you are the right person for this.

I have myself enoch websites to know how imported a good moderator is!!
mrpowless
I almost hit thumbs down lol...mouse speed is out of control
mastermindsro
I vote for.. you are the best option..
I vote for as long as "moderation" doesn't mean to shut our mouths..
I don't want to start talking like some other members and use "f" words to describe what I feel.. I DON'T like the special treatment to some members.. Why in the world was my post deleted and the post full of swearing is still there... you see guys this is not fair, this kinda feels that the boonex team just trashed my free opinion.. I wonder what unoboonex has to say see more about this.. the swearing record post is still there and my post was deleted.. what in the world is happening??? This is abuse, this is not moderation..
Juker
James,

Now that I know that you are serious about this I will support you completely. The Bible says that "In the multitude of counselors there is wisdom" and I hope you will include me in your circle of friends.

God Bless,
Juker
DeeEmm
James you got my vote.
houstonlively
A most definite yes vote. I'm not sure that's a nice thing to do to you though. Moderator can be a thankless job once in a while.
You have my vote as well. I hope you will keep things on topic, drama free and pertinent to the software.
Blogs should only be for boonex team members, everyone else could post in moderated forums...with jtadeo doing the moderating.
houstonlively
No offense, but that makes absolutely no sense.
I can't see any valid reason for community members to post blogs, every blog post seems either better suited for the forums or not posted at all.
Also it would be one less place to moderate and provide a more welcoming "front of house"
houstonlively
Forum discussions should focus on support issues... period.

Blogs should be an area where members can present new ideas and innovations, and participate in in-depth discussions of current issues. It's difficult to do that in busy forums that are occupied by a large number of inexperienced dolphin users. On the other side of the same coin, the blogging section should not be overrun with support issues and a plethora of frivolous posts. Those are valid reasons for a great many people here.
CALTRADE
Sorry JTadeo, one thumbs down vote, though I LOVE the contributions you have made here, which are beyond dispute. I voted down because reading your pitch for yourself makes me think you would have a heavy hand in moderation, and I am not sure that's what this forum needs right now:

"I also understand that some of my decisions may not be popular with everyone... I am of the mindset that members should respect one another and apologize if you are wrong"

This sounds almost guaranteed see more to create drama. Unity has had essentially zero moderation for a long time and has mostly worked. Unfortunately, a few members have abused this by frequently posting personal attacks and obscenities. The solution to this is to simply delete these personal attacks and obscenities as soon as they appear. This will discourage this behavior in the same way that removing graffiti as soon as it appears discourages more graffiti. I would prefer that whoever moderates Unity have a "light hand" and I would prefer that be someone on Boonex staff.

Rob
jtadeo
CALTRADE,

Thanks for the kind comment about my tutorials (I do love making them) and I appreciate your what you're thoughts on this.

If I understand what you're trying to say, my reply would be that no one can make anyone apologize.

In my post, I wanted to point out that when a person does apologize, it can lead to better things for those involved. Just my own thinking based on personal experience. At times, an apology can save you a hundred posts to clean up or tend to.

You all have see more your free will to do as you please. However in the Unity forums, you will need to abide by the rules as outlined by BoonEx. That would be my main directive. Just make sure whatever is posted matches with the rules. I really would have no say on the matter for the most part.
tyke
I vote yes, and indeed the biggest plus point is (and i quote "I believe I can be helpful and fair as I will do my utmost to moderate trolls, spammers, disruptive members, and gift basket purveyors. I also understand that some of my decisions may not be popular with everyone, but that is not what this is about. " Well said. Just what this site needs now.
I'd previously indicated my support for jtadeo to become Moderator here as he appears to be the person best placed amongst us to perform this function. However, I have had a rethink since then --- and this has nothing to do with jtadeo's fitness for the role.

It seems to me that appointing a Moderator, without all the other things that's necessary for effective moderation, is like putting the cart before the horse.

jtadeo will, no doubt, do his best to be as fair as possible to everyone see more if he was made Moderator. But what exactly does "fairness" mean?

I don't want to unnecessarily rehash the past, but a recent example here demonstrates quite starkly how different our ideas of "fairness" are:

- Boonex decided to convert all existing (paid, mind you) licenses into permanent licenses -- this was no freebie, as these licenses had been paid for. Those who were using free (unpaid) licenses continued to be able to use the free licenses as before --- they were not made any worse off by any means. To me (and I suspect Boonex thought the same way as well) this was fair to both sets of users.

- Yet we had a vocal few free license users who kicked and screamed (even calling Boonex scammers) because they missed out on the "freebie". They were not made any worse off by the new arrangement, yet they felt they were being unfairly treated.

It should not be the Moderator's job to decide what is fair and what isn't. Her/his job should simply be to enforce what is already agreed to as fair and acceptable.

So I'll re-post the stuff I had posted previously (but hidden in the forest of posts in somebody else's blog):

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If you have:

- Clear, fair and transparent rules;

- Moderators who are seen to be independent (as many Unity members are now lining up into various "camps" and seen as aligning with one party or another) -- and firm in applying the rules;

- A clear, consistent and accessible escalation process for resolving issues;

- Accountability by moderators of their actions (ie transparency of their actions and a clear & independent process for handling moderator complaints).

... then you're already there.

My view is that, given the history here, it is better to have totally clean skin Moderators, particularly at the start. This means people who have not even used Unity before, and only have the (new) rules to go by --- this will minimise people's inclination to question a Moderator's decision, as there is no ammunition (ie a past post) to use in order to challenge his/her decision.

With fewer questioning of Moderators' decisions, we can move much more quickly towards building the future, rather than dwell in the past ad infinitum (and the present even).
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CALTRADE
First of all, it is not necessary true that the people who protested the unannounced price increase were "not made worse off by the arrangement". Some of us had proposals out that used the old pricing structure. You have characterized the members who expressed their opinion on this as "kicked and screamed' and even repeated the accusation that someone called Boonex "scammers". The members who posted their opinions on this were subjected to some pretty vile personal attacks. see more As I understand it, your approach would have been to silence these voices, because "the rules" had already been established, and all the moderator should do is be "the enforcer" - no thanks.
jtadeo
TenZens this is a good point. There was a actually a movie based on this premise. It starred Kevin Spacey and Samuel L. Jackson.

Anyway, as per your statement "jtadeo will, no doubt, do his best to be as fair as possible to everyone if he was made Moderator. But what exactly does "fairness" mean?"

Fairness would be largely influenced by what has been outlined by BoonEx. The rules of the forum would form the basis for most decisions. For example, any posts that contain items see more that have been recognized as spam, swear words and so forth would be moderated.

Others may take more time to review. This would be items usually related to viewpoint matters. For example, I am sure many have see the "Mac vs. PC" debates. To me, unless rules are not broken, then there really would be no reason to stop to prevent the post from continuing.

With that said, I do have a personal rule. Whenever I see a post that might be off-putting, I remember this:

"Your first reaction is usually the wrong one."

So as much as possible, I take my time to chew on it a bit more to see if I may be missing something that was important to that member
jtadeo
...if rules are broken...lol...sorry..
Technoman
I do not think The blog system here needs to be moderated. I think the BLOG SYSTEM needs to be taken down so more attention and contributation can be focused more on the BOONEX forums.
Technoman
what i meant was take down the blog system altogether and put who ever you feel to be 'moderator' and place them over there on the forums, so that we can focus more on helping eachother as a community by asking questions and answering questions and helping users threw every channel needed in the forum system.

The Primary is the BOONEX FORUMS anything else is irelavent.
tyke
I agree with one point here, and that moderators should be outside the system. On most large forums, the moderators dont post about the forums, being part of the community, they simply stalk the forums waiting to jump on anybody that breaks the rules, no excuses,no bending, they just moderate. I see alot of people arent keen with having strict moderating on here, and i cant see why that is. All sites have moderators, it can be the making or breaking of a site if the moderators are good or bad (read see more bad as not doing the job properly). If anybody wants to see how its done, go make a member on forumotions support site and have a read around. members get post pulled up for simple things like not naming the topics properly, USING CAPS TO SPEAK TO PEOPLE and so on. That site is full of hot headed teenagers who are full of testosterone, but the mods keeps the forum running well because they know what they are doing. i suspect if a group of us went over to that forum and behaved like we do here, we would all last about five minutes before we were banned forever. Sounds harse, but go over there, ask a question and see how fast it gets answered. I hope some how the moderation can apply to the forum too. I guess though this is where the orca lets us down though not really having a moderation facility like say VB or phpbb and the like. its just daft trying to run a site as big as this with no moderators, its been proven here as its been proven in many other places, no moderation only leads to chaos (like it or not)
DosDawg
James,
Indeed. I read these posts and TenZens, you have hit on some ample continuity with your suggestions. I feel that James would be fair and impartial to all, and not only that, he would also be a dependable source to chime in on inquiries when a new user or aged user has been stumped by something on the application.

You Have My Vote Sir

Regards,
DosDawg
sammie
got my vote, but everyone knew that already
jerardg
got my vote!

JT=straight shooter
JT=no BS
JT=integrity

All in favor, the I's have it, passed, congrats James
grv
okey another vote from me.
qammar
and my vote too,

I have visited you web site, whenever i need to know something about dolphin, and often find some usefull stuff there.
if you become a mod here, please keep a soft corner for new commers. :)

best of luck
qammar
 
 
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