Real Names
Real names is a hot topic at Unity forum now and quite expectedly there's no shortage of opinions. So, I figured we all need a bit more details about BoonEx' position about using real names in Unity.
One of the latest "scoops" read:
9. Real names soon.
Unity is planned to request everyone to show their Real names instead of their usernames. If you absolutely have to stay anonymous, no problem, but you're likely to have your Unity experience limited.
First, note that it's "request", not "require".
REAL NAMES DISPLAY WILL BE OPTIONAL
Second, we won't show your real names, unless/until you approve it.
Third, the ideas is to "add to" not to break anything that Unity already is.
We will NOT take away any of your current rights or features. Real names display may add new options that'd be available IF you display real names. Such options are "certified real name" badge or, maybe, doubled weight of vote count, etc.
Personally, I think that privacy is over-rated. We have Facebook, LinkedIn, phonebooks, PeopleSearch, GoogleMaps, etc, etc. It doesn't take a degree to locate a specific person. I bet you can pinpoint home address of at least 50% Americans using Internet. Web anonymity is a cool feature, but is a feature of the past, that's slowly dying, like it or not. That's just my opinion, anyway. Quote me if you like, but it has nothing to do with what we plan to do at Unity.
The idea is to ask for a real name at registration page (or profile edit) and display it somewhere, prominently. however....
One should be able to specifically state that they want to remain anonymous. In that case we'd display something like "Unoboonex (anon)".
One could also use a fake name and display something like "Mickey Mouse". I see no problem with that - if you feel like presenting yourself as somebody with "Mickey Mouse" being your real name - so be it. I for one, changed my first name and surname some time ago.
... so, why do we need those Real Names anyway? That's for the people who have no problems revealing their names and using this as a reinforcement of their claims, self-promotion or whatever they need it for. It's an extra feature, basically. Real Name could be a company name for example - cool for those running a Unity Store. At a later stage we plan to start "verifying" names/company names and issuing some sort of notice about verification (here's where the "limited experience" word may substantiate). Consider difference beween products bought from "SegaMega (anon)" and "James Tadeo (verified)".
BoonEx Unity is a business network, and we have all sorts of people here. Professionals looking for jobs, groups selling mods, freelancers and consultants may actually WANT to display their Real Name, but now we suggest Username as a default option and encourage the spirit of anonymity. There're buyers who actually WANT to know real names of sellers, without asking.
How would you feel if I were hiding my real name (which is Andrew Boon, formerly Andrey Sivtsov)? I am happy to have the opportunity to tell you my name and our company name and the ABN (Australian Business Number).
... and again, personally, at the age of dying privacy I feel so much more secure, because I'm one of millions again, and not just one of the few [...nerds who tell their real names online].
The new Dolphin solution is powered by UNA Community Management System.
If Avatars and Daily Quotes are dead since a long long time ;-) this is now the age of reinforcement of Internet Privacy and Security, at least here in Europe.
Michel Bondallaz (verified)
1. Andrew stated: "First, note that it's "request", not "require"." That means you don't have to provide it, you can just say you want to be anon and you are anon. You can say your name is "nottellingyoumyname" and it will be accepted. Of course, that one will see more
A good example of what has happened to me in the past was on yahoo years ago i had a screen name that had my name plus numbers something like johnsmith2009, anyway some psycho looking at my profile figured out where i lived and decided to prank call my job. At the time i was working see more
It's a little annoying how people shear the word "real names" and simply jump into hate bandwagon. Should've just added the real names display option without even telling about it. Nobody would care.
Now here I am telling about the plan of OPTIONAL display of real names. It's only natural that if you use an OPTION you gain something, and if you don't use it, you don't gain anything. If you have problem with this option - fine, don't use it. See, some people print their names on mailboxes, some don't. Some print their names on doorbells, some don't. Some add their names to phonebooks, see more
Its really confused sometimes here.
real names checking like what was needed for a pundit is not a problem and yes needed, but realnames online don't do that.
Oh, and again, it's definitely going to be an OPTIONAL field.
As I've said before, if I'm buying something from someone I like to know a little bit more about that person than just "Nic1955" or something like that. But that's up to me if I care see more
If your paying money, you can ask the person for their name, but how do you know it's their real name? By requesting real names and then doing a verification of them, Boonex is simply paving the road for the buyers and sellers. In this instance sellers will not have to provide this information every time someone new comes along as it's been done see more
I can't request you to show me your "Footman's" ID.
Ok, I can verify that Footman is, say, John Smith, and just keep the name private in our system without displaying it to others. What's the use then? HOw does it help people that do transactions with you. IF things go hairy we wouldn't be bale to tell'em your name anyway, right? Right.
How hard is that to understand Andrew, you can NOT force or require this from anyone so now your going to ignore me and I wont get the help needed.... explain to me what what your referring to the help I need?
Your just going to roll over and say not helping you if your real name is not there ?
I do feel very strongly about this, ive been buzzing around the internet for over see more
If I read this right, I believe this is an "option" NOT a "requirement". I would assume that means that if you don't want you real name displayed, fine, choose the option for it NOT to display.
So what is the big deal? If anyone who has purchased something online, you had to enter you "real" name for billing purposes. And for anyone who thinks it's impossible to find out information about yourself, see more
Some people just tend to overreact when they hear some "anchor" words, like "privacy".
How will you be verifying real names? ebay doesn't verify my name. paypal doesn't verify my name. they verify my access to an email address and bank account.
I'm Patrick Kennedy. Am I a 40 year old network engineer in Vermont, or a congressman from Rhode Island? And once you verify one of the above, how am I to trust that verification?
Ebay does the same thing. You have to verify who you are with a bank card/checking account and if the names don't match then your out of them.
The difference here is, to use all features of Paypal you have to be verified. Yes, you can have people send you money and paypal will send see more
I wasn't as clear as I wanted to be with the paypal/ebay examples. They do verify that the names submitted are indeed the proper ones with the authority to authorize transaactions on given accounts. They do not require my name to be visible in order to use the sites to their fullest.
I have no problem with requiring a first name and see more
"I wasn't as clear as I wanted to be with the paypal/ebay examples. They do verify that the names submitted are indeed the proper ones with the authority to authorize transaactions on given accounts. They do not require my name to be visible in order to use the sites to their fullest."
That is where you are wrong. You can use paypal to purchase something with a credit card without signing up, you can receive funds to your paypal account without verifying and paypal will see more
In the end, this is no different, except that Boonex is still allowing you to join. They are just saying, you will have limited abilities until you do the verification process.
Now lets get one thing clear here, its great if you are in business, with a business name, and maybe a business address to go with it,All your internet dealing are aimed at that, but most see more
This may not stop the seller from being malicious, crap may still happen if people used real names, or are verified, but a lot less of it would. Real names isn’t a cure-all, but it’s a big step, at least, for the customers of BoonEx to feel secure, and sellers who care about building and maintaining a reputation see more
We need a little more security see more
I've found that using real names makes a dramatic cut in the amount of "up yours" posting online, because it's one notch closer to a real life encounter that see more
"I tend to take more seriously the writings of a person who lets his real-life persona be associated with his writings. It brings a whole new sense of responsibility into what you say and do online."
-well said
http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/index.php?n=en&gen=random&c=uk
So really whats the point. Best just to leave well alone, verify like you do for pundits, but displaying names will just cause unnecessary bad feeling. IMHO
If anybody on the internet wants to find me, it shouldn't take them too long. The only time it got a bit creepy is when someone posted a google map of my home address in a public forum. As I said elsewhere, I'm not too worried about people paying me visits... my house is protected by a Glock, Model 17L, security system. But..... that's me.... others may feel differently.
You can verify people's identity with a third party verification see more
SO let it be so... let those who's prepared to accept money form anyone at Unity display their real names, if they want to.
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If you had more detailed info, you'd be surprised to know that it is a lot more likely that you can become a victim if nobody knows you.
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I could easily argue that all those crimes are committed because of victims NOT telling their names more often in more places.
With professional mod developers or other members who work for companies that develop features for Dolphin it shows clients a great deal of who they realy are.
There shouldn't be a issue with having your first name displayed as there are thousands of people in the world with the same name.
We create profiles to show people who we realy are...it's just personal information such as address, phone number etc. that shouldn't be displayed see more
I find it really amusing to read of the paranoia associated with giving your name out on a public forum, as that's all it really amounts to - paranoia. Identity theft is far more easily achieved by other means, trawling forums for names is not going to earn you any money as a cyber criminal. Most online thefts occur as a result of phishing scams, these in turn are targeted at those who are naive in web usage and do not have adequate see more
Anonymity is the source of 99,99% of Internet-related crimes.
Anonymity != freedom.
I say, everyone should stick their fingerprint to their IP.
God Made Man. Colt Made Men Equal. Web Anonymity Made Men Irresponsible.
Anonymity != freedom."
"God Made Man. Colt Made Men Equal. Web Anonymity Made Men Irresponsible."
Solid Stuff.
I think all these are secondary things and we should not spend much time or resources on these kind of topics. Our main aim is to get a 100% bug-free dolphin and each one of us is eagerly waiting for it and we are running well behind schedule. I understand it's a community and everyone's opinion matters. But personally I think we should not be spending so much time discussing this topic.
Anyways, see more
(disclaimer: that line above is a joke)
I teach internet safety on my site, and amongst my favorite quotes I used is "It Only Takes One".
I have no issue giving my name to boonex, but how good would the security be seeing as how at&t got hacked a few years ago?
:)
there is no reason, repeat no reason to force people to display their real name, the username is just see more
Thanks for your arguments.
giving your name is not optional, if you dont then it seems that your experience on here is going to lessened in see more
Considering Andrew as some kind of evil dictator IS by definition a psychotic tendency - psychotic, literally means abnormal condition of the mind, and is a generic psychiatric term for a mental state often described as involving a "loss of contact with reality".
Andrew is not an evil dictator, he is simply someone running see more
As far as people using their real names would instil better behaviour is debatable. The debate isnt really about verification but forced displaying of details,giving your name is not optional if you want to get the full benefit of the site, that is clearly stated by Andrew, perhaps you need to re-read see more
The only effect not using your real name / getting verified will have is to change how you are perceived - There is no reduced functionality mentioned as many are saying...
No need to re-read as i will quote it here: "At a later stage we plan to start "verifying" names/company names and issuing some sort of notice about verification (here's where the "limited experience" see more
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DosDawg
I'm looking at a document called "Information Sheet (Private Sector) 1A: National Privacy Principles". The following clause is binding to BoonEx as an Australian private sector organization.
"8. Anonymity
Wherever it is lawful and practicable, individuals must have the option of not identifying themselves when entering transactions with an see more
2. Boonex has not stated they will share your information with third parties. They are only stating that if you choose to, you can have your full name appear on your profile.
In the end, that is not solid as Boonex has stayed in compliance from what we can see so far.
Nice try, but suggesting you not attempt to go into court with them. You do go a point though see more
You don't have to try and attack and tackle everything that moves, it's not like the whole world's out to challenge you in particular, even if you may feel like that.
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3 Ways to log in ........ name and password
Option 2 email and password
Option 3 Phone number and password
of course you would have to make an advanced log in page so you could put the three options......
I read this and really cannot believe some of these responses. Out of all the quotes on "Identity Theft" in this blog, someone thinks that just by having their name, they're doomed. It takes more than just your name to steal your identity. If I am not mistaken, it takes at least Name, address, AND phone number. Take a brief look at the most common ways identity theft is done:
1. Going through your trash. They look through trash looking see more
To answer your question about my mom and sister, well, to be honest, GOD only knows what information they may have floating out here in cyberworld. Haha (my mom is about the most gullible person see more
What a great comment. I think your mom and sister will be proud of you for that! Hopefully YOU are not a stalker....
Btw., have you ever read unoboonex post - and maybe his update for clarification? If so, why couldn't you understand what he say?
My mom and sister would unfortunately agree with me. Thank God, I got into the IT business about 15 years ago. I cant tell you how many times my mom thought she should send her information to an unknown email address because they said she won the lottery in a state she doesn't live in.
And btw, I did read his update and understand it very well. He is giving the members of this site a "Choice" to become see more
Lightwolf:
Well it is not just the identity theft it is also about our safety, but then if you have never been stalked I would not expect you to understand us that have and why we protest so much. Why not let your mom or sister come on here and place their real names on here. You men see more
I wish you luck and hope you are careful as possible. At least I can understand why you are in a "mood" to mix up boonex unity rules with your so sad real world experience.
Maybe if someone explained to me why this makes sense, I'd shut up about it.
Andrew why dont you close the site expertzz.com , is it that hard to do or you have something to hide and where you are now saying we got to use our real names /// whats the joke andrew ?
Look Andrew you are responsiable for expertzz.com not us and so since people have got ripped off were all paying the flipping price for this ... comon lets get on the see more
Is this Boonex or Facebook ?
"Facebook is for friends and family"
"Boonex is a software site"
How can you even compare the 2 ?
Stop trying to be like others lets continue where we left off with 7.0 ?
For a variety of reasons I do not want my account (with my real name) displayed to the entire community; however, if I do want to speak with a vendor or consultant, I would have no problem display my real name to that person since that is a part of doing business.
I do not want the members looking for a mate, the female brides looking for a sugar daddy, or anyone see more
For a variety of reasons I do not want my account (with my real name) displayed to the entire community; however, if I do want to speak with a vendor or consultant, I would have no problem display my real name to that person since that is a part of doing business.
I do not want the members looking for a mate, the female brides looking for a sugar daddy, or anyone see more
For a variety of reasons I do not want my account (with my real name) displayed to the entire community; however, if I do want to speak with a vendor or consultant, I would have no problem displaying my real name to that person since that is a part of doing business.
I do not want the members looking for a mate, the female brides looking for a sugar daddy, or anyone see more
Bonne fete de laîd a toute les musulmans du mondes.
Que dieu protège tous le monde sans exception, toute les religions, pour un seul dieu unique, créateur de l'univers.
Me, I put my nickname, which dates to 2005, copyright protection, experienced legal administrative services, I pay taxes for shopping ect .. . From this, people know me .. I change my nickname ever, my rather, avatrd.
I have a message for BoonEx.
I am preparing a site for the French, can give me your support in return? as a relay?
because with my mods, I'm seeking, but not likely during long, on account of the language barrier.
best regards,
The sooner that people start actually believing that we are all equal, instead of just paying lip service to it, the sooner the world will start to become a better place.
First of all, equal in what status of reality. No that is a falsehood, we are not all equal in presence or in being, mental capacity, physical capacity, (deserving of equal treatment absolutely), but definitely see more
I have 15 years using the internet and i never share my real information on the internet people dont want to use the real name because they get hacked and rip so the best is keep your personal information personal and keep using nick name
I'm in business, I use my real name, it's printed on my business cards. My personal domain name's clement.co.nz. My life partner's in business, her business name is "Sweet Expectations" so the domain name is sweetexpectations.co.nz and that's embroidered on her work-wear but her own name is on every page on the site. If I want someone to take me seriously in business I'd better be prepared to say who I am.
I have places I hang out on the net, where I may be a bit more relaxed see more