Dolphin 7 Beta - Initial Observations

DeeEmm posted 9th of July 2009 in Community Voice. 6 comments.

After seeing the announcement last night about the impending FF beta release, I eagerly waited until about 1 am to see if it would appear, and then decided I needed some sleep as I had to catch the redeye in the morning.

Fortunately when I powered up the macbook in the Qantas lounge - there it was - waiting eargerly to be downloaded. I downloaded it thinking that I would install it this evening after work.

Well, eagerness got the better of me, and I just wasn't getting into my book on the plane, so I cracked out the laptop and installed it.

First impressions are WOW. It appears that all of the complaints about installation have been taken on board, permissions were correctly set in supplied files, so no messing around with that headache. (unless the checking is simply now turned off) in fact the only thing I had to change was my php path - and I can forgive your for that (even though it's easy to find programatically).

The quick install gave me plenty of time to check out the new admin interface (I didnt bother with the previous beta as I couldn't be bothered to set the required file permissions) and for the most part I like it, but there are a few 'bugs' for want of a better term.

My first 'bug' is that there needs to be continuity wth the terms 'extensions' and 'modules' - they both refer to the same thing - please choose one.

I lke the fact that the extensions are not all installed by default - this allows a greater freedom in customising - however - there does not appear to be any warnings for dependencies - some extensions appear to rely on others.

Next 'bug' is that I could not see a way to manually add members (bit annoying for testing).

Another thing that I noticed, is that some of the admin menu blocks on the left, collapsed when selecting the menu items, this made navigating through the options a bit of a pain.

Additionally most / all of the editing areas within the admin panel were reduced to a very narrow width in the centre of the page - this applied to text areas, textfields, option boxes, etc.

There were some areas not working in my installation - namely the pages builder, additionally the members menu blocks were misaligned (looked like an absolute / relative CSS positioning error)

I noticed that there did not appear to be an admin link on the site when logged in as admin - is this intentional or am I simply missing it?

Anyhows - all very minor issues in the grand scheme of things, so it is a credit to all at Boonex.

I've not really delved too deep into the whole site and it's functionlity, but I really like the presentation, there is a good attention to detail - it's the small things like the avatar and post details in the shoutbox, and the navigation bar at the bottom which make the whole experience a lot better. I'm still not 100% on the main tabbed navigation bar and the narrow tabs at the ends - this is a break from tradition and I'm not sure it really works for me (yeah yeah - I know it's just a template). I have noticed that Orca still seems pretty basic, and that the groups extension does not work (it shows as installed but there is no link / admin settings for it).

Overall it's looking good, keep up the good work.

DM.

 
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totallyfreak
also i would like to add that first im very impress by the system warning message.... very very very hot!!! when a user view your profil you got an instant popup window who told you that... and you can click on the nick to see the profil of the user... but it could be better if below the nick... you see his AVATAR... so you can know if you must see the profil of this member or not... and also the popup windows with the communication that appear when you let the mouse over a avatar of a member in see more the listing should appear more quick... not have to wait 5 second but maybe 2 sec....
DeeEmm
I reinstalled the groups extension and it now works.
westmerch
Always good to read here :p
DeeEmm
There's a html datatype in the profile blocks builder now (guess that means I don't have to finish the MOD I was writing :) ). Not checked any further but I assume that it will be sanitized / whitelisted.
DeeEmm
Does anyone else's Page Builder work??

Mine appears to do nothing so I cannot edit any of the pages, or even grab a look to see what's new.

:(
DeeEmm
Mnnn - not sure I like the way that the template css is handled - with the import calls linked back to the base template - this is an unnecessary dependency and additional overhead that should be avoided. Also, from memory different browsers handle style overrides in different ways - this is encouraging problems!!

I can understand the philosophy of including the base template so that future upgrades do not break site layouts, however, this will happen in anycase to a heavily modded site. Fixing see more template / css issues is an accepted part of updating / upgrading that is easily handled if a proper changelog is provided and new additions to the templates follow the css structure. Most new mods / items can probably inherit existing css class attributes - therefore no changes to css are necessary and the upgrade does not break the site!!

I would like to see the dependencies to the base template removed and there to simply be one template - I.E. get rid of base - move everything across to UNI (or vice versa) allowing people to simply copy the whole directory when they want to make another template.


Additionally you can also read the directory name to auto generate the template name - so no additional mods are required to make a new template other than simply copying the directory. EASY_PEASY

That said - it is 200% better than the previous way of handling the templates (with the compile required). It just still leaves that little bit to be desired.

Don't over-complicate things by trying to make it clever. It doesn't need it.

If you want to make it more user friendly - add a function to the admin panel to create the new template (by copying the base template)

Add an editor for the html files too (same as for css files).

Now you don't even need to open up an editor / ftp client to do stuff.
 
 
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