It is shaping up to become the biggest and the most important Dolphin version update we have ever had. In recent weeks we realised that it is so grandiose that even updates to 6 and to 7 pale in comparison. Hence, we scrapped 7.1 and we scrapped Trident in favor of Dolphin 8 - Sundance.
Current stable version of Dolphin is a 100% evolutionary product. In fact, despite a few big makeovers, it still drags a number of decade-old design choices. Some parts of Dolphin are old enough to prevent effective solutions to crucial issues and big enough to be practically irremovable. We knew this for a long, loooooong time and teased you with Trident. We had Trident in our "labs" for years, evolving and changing without going public. At the same time Dolphin evolved, became more modular, gathered a nice selection of 3rd party extensions and had a major performance improvement. You have no idea how many times we couldn't decide which way to go, working in "cross-roads" state of mind for years.
Finally, we figured our the way and there will be no further hesitation... Ideas and love invested into Trident are now being donated back to Dolphin. Sundance will become Dolphin 8 after going through "detox", "trident" and "8" update stages. In other words - we are not going to build a new house or just make up the old one - we're renovating. In a big way.
We have two main "lab" frameworks that were supposed to turn into Trident. We won't continue their development. I the nearest future we plan to release them for public review, but that's it. It's all about Dolphin now.
Dolphin 8, once released, will power BoonEx.com.
For you it's a future product, for us it's our current everyday job. We have already spent a few weeks working on Sundance with great results and although many aspects are still undecided we already feel confident about how much it is going to change everything that we know about using Dolphin.
To start off, I'll give you an idea of just a few things we're already working on:
Dolphin 8 will have no Admin Panel. Yes, you read it correctly - no admin panel. Instead we're building what we call Dolphin Studio for setting up the site, while administrative features are going to be separated a part of standard member interface with proper rights and roles. In other words - administration will turn into "super-moderation"; while technical settings, design, optimisation and whatever is needed to be done to actually change the site is left as part Dolphin Studio.
The main focus of the Sundance frontend is on social interaction. Befriending, communication, following, feeds and updates are redesigned completely. As the first step, before adding any other functionality we want to ensure that Dolphin social experience is engaging and straightforward.
We call Dolphin universal now, because it has so many features and extensions. Sundance is designed to be universal at core. The very structure of how the site is going to be build will command an unlimited number of social applications for Dolphin software. To achieve that we're building all-new core modules - Profiles, Groups, Events, Photos, Notes and others - they are going to be completely new and with new approach in mind. New builders for pages and navigation. New, comprehensive permissions and membership-levels system.
This time we're not compromising. Every bit of sub-par code is wiped out. We're taking it to bare bones and then we're cutting bad bones too. Only two senior developers (AlexT and AntonL) are appointed to work on Sundance at this stage. We want to ensure the highest quality of code and decided to limit it to senior level while core is developed. We want no dark posts this time. We want it flawless.
If current Dolphin is optimised to be fast and can be setup to be faster, Sundance is being designed to be fast and light in every sense. We're removing dependancies on Flash and Media Server wherever possible, introducing an new default template and rewriting fronted markup. Our goal is to slash Dolphin's use of server resources even before server optimisation is done.
Today we're uploading Sundance to BoonEx SVN. This is a development version that won't work. It's only for progress tracking and assessment of ongoing improvements. We will be announcing operational versions once they are ready. We will also run a 3-4 week pre-release collaboration program to help BoonEx Market Vendors update their extensions in advance.
Further updates may be marked as "for Premium Members only" to keep discussion a bit more private and professional. The updates will be fairly frequent though. This post may also be turned into "Premium Only" in about a week. You can see the new Dolphin logo in our earlier post.
Sundance started the most important development marathon that we ever had. We have no certain timeframe yet, but now that we've narrowed down the goals and cleared the way it won't be too long before the old problems vanish for good. Design ideas, Trident take-aways, sketches and decisions that we already made promise a wonderful, revolutionary product.
Man: = James
Women: = Elise
Couple: = Hotbird
What is your plan with Flash Video Voice Chat.
I do not want to be Premium member just for same functions what we already have...
Andrew possible with the Dolphin 8 appears HTML5 elements?
As I'm developing my site using Dolphin as a platform, I'm experiencing a few "glitches" I was hoping a new version is just around the corner and would deliver a more stable version.
I have paid money for premium and some considerable amount to buy some add on modules. I like Dolphin as a platform and some of the features see more
1. Dolphin 8 is not a "new" project. We've been working on 7.1 and realized that the updates we plan to include are well beyond the scope of .x update number. You will still see .0.7 though.
2. $600-$1000 won't buy you an assurance of a stable platform. Trust me, we have those platforms on our PC, we constantly analyse them and we know a lot about level of service as well. The money you pay for a license won't make much of a difference. it mosre a matter of what see more
This is not cool, Why should those of us who are non premium members be considered not worthy? Obviously you don't value us or our feedback.
Could you provide the community some screenshots showing the new design and layout?
Keep on keeping on!
Will the upgrade process follow the standard procedure or it will be more complex?
where its great that you are finally seeing the big picture and realizing that you need to start from a barebones approach, that really doesnt help any of those who are running the current buggy
so while you are scrapping things, can we please get an outline of when bugs and issues are going to be addressed for 7.0.6
Security
Spam
Voting Tracking
are just a few that i recall. the security implementation see more
dolphin 8 sounds great, and if you guys totally rebuild based on what you have learned through all of these developmental see more
Exactly what else we are supposed to do see more
An enjoyable read, very informative, thankyou.
Andrew Please finish Dolphin 7.... take your time with Dolphin 8 and Don't rush it.
"""Why should those of us who are non premium members be considered not worthy? Obviously you don't value us or our feedback"".
I hope you have answer for us???????
The process of new version development, especially one with new features always leads to very active discussions and may also confuse new members into prolonged wait instead of launching base on current stable version. We have to limit access to keep current business going.
Exactly what else we are supposed to do see more
oh i mean Adriannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!
Go the Premium route and you will be shooting yourself in the foot and deserve everything you get.
It also confuses upgraded members because they send a member an email not knowing that they are standard and cannot reply so think they are being ignored making see more
As someone that is considering Dolphin for a new venture I am concerned now with what I've read on the past history of bugs, lack of commitment to a quality base before moving on, and that employees / ex-employees are selling the bug fixes. I'm also concerned that there are no expectations set on the delivery timeframe.
Dolphin 7 that I've just (excitedly) hosted is sounding similar to a handyman that doesnt finish see more
I developed them to geet around dolphin 7 limitations in the first place.... Now I will have to pay a coder to build them in php because flash will not work?
PANIC..... BREATHES INTO A BAG.... Breathe.... ; )
I wish you good luck snd success
But do not hurry to issue the new version of Dolphin so you will be sure of the quality of 100%
Especially the question of speed
Please address the issue of comments among the members of the Profile to their importance, and it is the backbone of the interaction between members .
Greetings and respect for all
and another thing the download speed of your Dolphin 8 version.
from astrology point of view 8 is a struggling number instead make it dolphin 9 it will be better
Great to hear about Dolphin 8/Sundance in the works.
How's it progressing - no post for 87 days?
Any indication of a launch date (month) in 2011?
Great to hear about Dolphin 8/Sundance in the works.
How's it progressing - no post for 87 days?
Any indication of a launch date (month) in 2011?
Great to hear about Dolphin 8/Sundance in the works.
How's it progressing - no post for 87 days?
Any indication of a launch date (month) in 2011?
Since the announcement was clear that there would be no more patches on Dolphin see more
what? excuse, excuse, excuse, excuse........ o, ok, excuse, no download link, beta version, support... o thats right, excuse!! if dolphin see more
- have you finally decided to use a standard framework (Laravel, Phalcon, Symfony, Zend....)
If you use a professional framework with developer certification, this will lift the level of your product. More professional developers would contribute or write modules and also more companies would decide to use your product in favour of an own development
- are you using dependency injection?
- did you finally kick-out MySQL? MySQL is outdated for a community see more